Anyone Child Free By Choice?

angelicmary85

Morgan_Ree wrote: »

I think you'll find 'most' working parents do not find it acceptable to come in late or leave early because there is a problem with 'little jimmy' (real patronising by the way)
Do you honestly think employers care if we have kids or not?
Are you really naive enough to think parents have it easy in the workplace?

I agree.

I can't ever recall a day a day I was late or finished early becuase of my children...oh yeah I can...I worked 12hour days for 14 days straight and I forgot what shift I was on for my 15th day. I turned up at half 10 instead of half 9 but my boss didn't say anything as I'd done so much extra time for the company.

I think, somewhere along the line, the posters that feel that parents get treated better may have had a workplace experience with that kind of thing but it's not fair to assume all parents/boss' are like that.

catkins

Morgan_Ree wrote: »

I think you'll find 'most' working parents do not find it acceptable to come in late or leave early because there is a problem with 'little jimmy' (real patronising by the way)
Do you honestly think employers care if we have kids or not?
Are you really naive enough to think parents have it easy in the workplace?

Well almost everywhere I have worked (and that quite a few places in 40 years of working!) there have been quite a few parents who did.

Where I am working now there are only 3 parents but between them in the last few months they must have had at least 10 days off - the schools were closed due to snow - their child was ill - their child caring arrangements fell through.

I accept that people with children will need time off sometimes because of their child but then the rest of us have to work harder and/or longer hours and we get nothing in return. I asked to come in late one morning because my dog needed to go to the vet and was told I should make vet appointments on my day off!!! So next time my dog slips on ice and hurts his leg I tell him he should have done it on my day off shall I?

angelicmary85

catkins wrote: »

Well almost everywhere I have worked (and that quite a few places in 40 years of working!) there have been quite a few parents who did.

Where I am working now there are only 3 parents but between them in the last few months they must have had at least 10 days off - the schools were closed due to snow - their child was ill - their child caring arrangements fell through.

I accept that people with children will need time off sometimes because of their child but then the rest of us have to work harder and/or longer hours and we get nothing in return. I asked to come in late one morning because my dog needed to go to the vet and was told I should make vet appointments on my day off!!! So next time my dog slips on ice and hurts his leg I tell him he should have done it on my day off shall I?

I'll admit that your situation seems a bit unfair but the parents where I work are there all the time, in fact, one of the guys there has worked every xmas morning for the last 5 years from 7am until 11pm (the same on New Year's Day) so he's never got to see his kids opening their xmas presents and hasn't even seen them on xmas day!

catkins

I don't honestly care whether people have children or not, although I can't understand people who have more than say 2 because regardless of what another poster said, the world is overpopulated. What I do not understand is why so many people have children just because it supposedly "the norm". You get married and have children.

I cannot believe how many of my friends said they never discussed it with their other halves - they just had children because it was the next step after getting married. Some of them did discuss it once they were married only to find that one wanted children and the other did not. In almost all those cases the couples are now divorced - some because they did not have a child and the one wanting one decided to end the marriage and some after having a child, which one of the partners did not want.

A few of them are still together but have unhappy marriages.

My husband and I spent ages discussing whether or not to have children - it was never a clear cut case that we would not have any. We both like children and there were reasons for and against.

Having a child is such a huge responsibility it should be dicussed and given thought - it should never be down to having them because it is expected or the norm.

Person_one

catkins wrote: »

Having a child is such a huge responsibility it should be dicussed and given thought - it should never be down to having them because it is expected or the norm.

Its better to regret not having children than to regret having them!

Morgan_Ree

catkins wrote: »

Well almost everywhere I have worked (and that quite a few places in 40 years of working!) there have been quite a few parents who did.

And I'm sure quite a few who didn't

Where I am working now there are only 3 parents but between them in the last few months they must have had at least 10 days off - the schools were closed due to snow - their child was ill - their child caring arrangements fell through.

So do you think these parents felt good about having this time off?
Do you think your boss values them more as an employee needing quite a lot of time off
Do you think your boss bent over backwards to accomodate them?
No, of course not but !!!! happens!

I accept that people with children will need time off sometimes because of their child but then the rest of us have to work harder and/or longer hours and we get nothing in return.

Just like when people (not children!) are off sick, those left at work will need to cover them by working harder/longer hours for nothing in return! Those people could be parents
Why make out the CF are made to work twice as hard only when parents are off, rather than when any old employee is off?

I asked to come in late one morning because my dog needed to go to the vet and was told I should make vet appointments on my day off!!! So next time my dog slips on ice and hurts his leg I tell him he should have done it on my day off shall I?

I would have taken him anyway and claimed i was stuck in traffic

BubblyMumbles

catkins wrote: »

Well almost everywhere I have worked (and that quite a few places in 40 years of working!) there have been quite a few parents who did.

Where I am working now there are only 3 parents but between them in the last few months they must have had at least 10 days off - the schools were closed due to snow - their child was ill - their child caring arrangements fell through.

I accept that people with children will need time off sometimes because of their child but then the rest of us have to work harder and/or longer hours and we get nothing in return. I asked to come in late one morning because my dog needed to go to the vet and was told I should make vet appointments on my day off!!! So next time my dog slips on ice and hurts his leg I tell him he should have done it on my day off shall I?

This is exactly the kind of stuff that I find so unfair. Your dog is part of your family, why shouldn't you be able to take him to the vets when he needs to go? You can be sure if it was a parent phoning in and saying their kid had fallen and had to go to hospital that would be fine.

Morgan_Ree

BubblyMumbles wrote: »

This is exactly the kind of stuff that I find so unfair. Your dog is part of your family, why shouldn't you be able to take him to the vets when he needs to go? You can be sure if it was a parent phoning in and saying their kid had fallen and had to go to hospital that would be fine.

Erm ones a human being, the other is an animal

This sort of thing does nothing for the stereotypical image of a CF person
You know the sort you see on TV?
Almost always surrounded by cats

BubblyMumbles

Creditcruncher wrote: »

What about a pet hamster, should that have the same rights as a human person too?

Is it part of your family? If so then why not?

Joelleski

Morgan_Ree wrote: »

Erm ones a human being, the other is an animal

This sort of thing does nothing for the stereotypical image of a CF person
You know the sort you see on TV?
Almost always surrounded by cats

Darn, CF, 2 cats, and OH made me take the cuddly toys off the bed :rotfl: