Childminder hit my child

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To milliebear00001 , unfortunately the jail bit most certainly is not a joke.

peachyprice

Chas wrote: »

How does anyone know that the childminder & her mother were actually clothes shopping?

Where does it say this?

They were in M&S, the child hid under a clothes rail. They could have been walking through the clothes section to get to the food section to buy a bag of fruit for the child's lunch for all any of us know!

If they were just walking through the clothes section the child would have been walking along with them, and would have been missed far sooner :rolleyes:

In fact, if it happened as you are suggesting, that is even worse, that meant they didn't even stop to make sure he was with them as they trotted straight through the clothes department.

Chas

The point is, many posters on here are slating the childminder for 'clothes shopping' when none of us actually know that was the case!

The opening post says they were looking for the child for 10 minutes, he may have been missed almost immediately. We don't know if that was the case, we weren't there! As Jamie Bulger's mother knows, it only takes a moment for your child to disappear.

I wasn't suggesting how anything happened, was just pointing out that a lot of posters are making a lot of assumptions.

mishkanorman

Zazen999 wrote: »

How does that explain baby P then - what emotions did his mother have that kicked in once she gave birth to protect him?

When this case was all over the news - there were comments saying 'as a mother I find this shocking yada yada'....my point is that you do not have to be a mother to find this shocking....and then the condescending comments came saying that of course, you can never have the same depth of emotion as a real mother....

Which brings it back to if real mothers have more emotional attachment and something magical and mystical happens when you are a mother - then why did Shannon Matthews' mother have her 'kidnapped' and locked away for weeks on end?

well done, you quoted 2 psycho mothers, shall i dredge up all the non mothers who have harmed children ??

No, because the point i was making was not that ALL mothers care more or have a better understanding of bringing up children, the same as ALL non mothers arent totally clueless when it comes to kids. the point was that IN THEORY you should have a better grasp of what it means to raise children having been there yourself.

In the OP's case it seems its actually worse that the childminder was a mother herself (or did i dream that bit up) because she was treating the child as she would one of her own rather than a child she had been PAID to look after.


mishka

missymugwump

If the child minder was doing her job properly ( bearing in mind with her mother there was two pairs of eyes to watch him) this would not have happened and if it had would have been controlled sooner because if she was even half watching him she would of seen exactly where he went

She was prob wandering along chatting NOT watching your child,not picking up on his signals that he was prob bored
I would refuse to use her and report it
No one should hit a child and saying it was instinct makes it worse it just shows her true self

missymugwump

Caroline73 wrote: »

He's 3, perfectly capable of walking. No wonder we have a generation of obese children if 3 year olds should be in prams!!!

I used to wear leather reins I remember them well
Pale blue leather with little bunnies on the breast plate bit

We all had them back then :rotfl: showing my age
We walked everywhere but the reins went on near busy roads or busy places where there were crowds

At age 3 in a store the child should of been controlled but I agree a pram is a bit much,unless it was an im tired protest cause he had walked too far ?

Bettyboop

I agree with the above poster. Stop using her and don't pay her either!

missymugwump

In my opinion your relationship with the childminder has iretrievably broken down now anyway.
You question her quality of care & judgement after this

don't you ?

Move on you will only worry every time you use her now

Zazen999

mishkanorman wrote: »

No, because the point i was making was not that ALL mothers care more or have a better understanding of bringing up children, the same as ALL non mothers arent totally clueless when it comes to kids. the point was that IN THEORY you should have a better grasp of what it means to raise children having been there yourself.

You didn't make that point at all....

mishkanorman wrote: »

what this post is saying ~(IMHO) is that whilst you can be educated in child-care you cannot truly have the same understanding of the emotion side of things that kicks in when that child is 'yours' be it from birth or adoption. You would change the world for them , defend them against anyone and anything and die before you seem them hurt. The comment was aimed at people who feel they can understand parenting but have yet to experience it. Its not an insult to those who are unable to have children or who have adopted, its an observation of human nature.

mishka

galvanizersbaby

missymugwump wrote: »

In my opinion your relationship with the childminder has iretrievably broken down now anyway.
You question her quality of care & judgement after this

don't you ?

Move on you will only worry every time you use her now

Just thought Noodledoodles post (cut and pasted below from top of page 11) might answer your question in case you haven't read through the entire thread

Hi Guys

First a thank you to all of you for your replies and the public flogging which was probably deserved on some aspects.

I have left my son with my mum today and have a list of childminders to phone around. I am not prepared to leave him with the current childminder.

I have contacted the childminding association and got their charter which clearly states smacking is not allowed. I am going to write to her and the childminding association to explain that he will not be going back.

I am absolutely distraught about the whole thing and really disappointed in myself that I didn't listen to him when he first told me. Even thinking about it makes me feel sick.

I will keep you updated with the new childminder etc.