Car Scrappage Scheme

Lady_K

This might be a daft question but can you get dealers to reduce the prices of new cars like you can try with second hand ones?

Its just my daughter said she liked the idea of a VW polo so I've rang a few dealers for her as shes working and they said the polo is changing on 16th oct and its more expensive to 'the new polo' by the time shes added the air conditioning I know she wants because she drives all day its going to be a lot for her, shes a community nurse.

I asked if they had any of the older model polos still in stock and they said yes but when I asked the price it was way more than expected, it was more than the new model one but he said it was because of the extras. I commented on the price and said it was too much and especially as its the older model, he said he might be able to get it lower for her. I'm a bit confused as why would the older model car have all the extras, I'm a bit worried in case its used or demo model.

The new vw polo on the vw site says 10,035.00 basic before scrappage

The old model polo hes quoting at 11,430.00 as a 1.2 match, before scrappage, its too much for her. Do you think they might reduce it by a good amount for her? it seems it might have extras she would never have added herself I'm guessing

Because of this it made me wonder can you try to get a better deal with dealers for any new car just like used ones?

hethmar

Use a car broker - I used carfile for my VW - they were wonderful and my car was delivered on a transporter over 100 miles and the scrap car taken away at the same time.

Dealers arent going to be keen on reducing VWs - they are one of the most wanted car with a waiting list generally.

I should think the "older" car is more expensive because it is a higher specification. The one you have seen on the website for the new polo is probably the very basic model with no extras. There is usually 3 different specs on cars from what Ive seen - the basic, no frills one obviously being the cheapest.

hethmar

Just checked, carfile is offering 8% off the new polo

http://www.carfile.net/

flea72

Lady_K wrote: »

I'm a bit confused as why would the older model car have all the extras, I'm a bit worried in case its used or demo model

why would you be worried its used, or a demo model? neither of these can be bought using the scrappage allowance.

But, you asked him what he had in stock, not what he could obtain under scrappage, the two things are different, so yes the vehicles he mentioned to you, could be used, demonstators, or pre-registered, but if thats your price range, then why the quandry?

Lost of demonstrators or pre-registered vehicles come with lots of twiddles, as dealerships generally like to have the top of the range models for display, as it lures people into spending more than they planned. who wants to see a plain white car with a basic interior, when they go car shopping, its not exactly eye catching

Also the price you are quoting for the new polo, is the basic model, without a/c. add the a/c and it more or less creeps up in price to the polo match

Flea

Lady_K

I wasn't aware that demo models could not be sold under the scrappage deal as I thought they would still be classed as new.

The dealer did say the older model polo was 9430.00 after scrappage so it is with the deal

Lady_K

hethmar wrote: »

Just checked, carfile is offering 8% off the new polo

http://www.carfile.net/

Thanks for that, I will call them tomorrow to see what they say and pass it on to my daughter then she can ring them herself if she likes the idea. Little bit nervous about buying a new car this way but its worth looking into. I didn't even know sites like this existed but since I read this I looked on mse too and found other brokers. The 8% with carefile might end up being around the same as some of the other brokers are offering as thier prices are showing roughly 8% below the price showing on the vw site. It doesnt give a price on the carfile site just a quote form or telephone number to ring. Its not too clear if the offer can be used with the scrappage deal though but will ask tomorrow

hethmar

Id never thought of doing it that way until I read some of the many people on here who had done it successfully.

The chap you speak to will probably be Jonathan - his father started the firm about 30 years ago and its totally above board and professional. They pass your requirements on to their main dealer contacts who will then speak to you about your specs and give you a price. Obviously there is no obligation at that point. My Golf came out nearly £1700 below what the local dealers were prepared to offer. On top of that the car was transported here and the scrap car plus my old Skoda which they took also in part exchange were taken away at the same time, at no charge.

It was all pain free and we were very pleased. The dealers are all main dealers for the car you want, not dodgey back street car sellers. In fact by buying it like this you get the extra protection of distance selling So you can actually send it back if you dont like it - you cant do that with a local dealer. Speak to Jonathan, tell him I was very pleased with the Golf Plus he arranged.

cheekyweegit

hethmar wrote: »

Id never thought of doing it that way until I read some of the many people on here who had done it successfully.

The chap you speak to will probably be Jonathan - his father started the firm about 30 years ago and its totally above board and professional. They pass your requirements on to their main dealer contacts who will then speak to you about your specs and give you a price. Obviously there is no obligation at that point. My Golf came out nearly £1700 below what the local dealers were prepared to offer. On top of that the car was transported here and the scrap car plus my old Skoda which they took also in part exchange were taken away at the same time, at no charge.

It was all pain free and we were very pleased. The dealers are all main dealers for the car you want, not dodgey back street car sellers. In fact by buying it like this you get the extra protection of distance selling So you can actually send it back if you dont like it - you cant do that with a local dealer. Speak to Jonathan, tell him I was very pleased with the Golf Plus he arranged.

And with the Toyota Yaris he arranged for me. Reminds me must give him a call and say thanks.

CFC

Congrats on your nice shiny new cars, Hethmar and jb!

LandyAndy

LandyAndy wrote: »

Definitely not so in my case. The car was in stock in the dealer's compound four weeks before we collected it (waiting for the 59 reg).

flea72 wrote: »

well if you had said you bought dealer stock, then it wouldnt be so out of the ordinary for them to find space for it, as it was for their own use (prob couldnt register it before 1st either due to restrictions). Display models too arent a constraint on space, as it looks good to have cars sitting in the showroom with a 'sold' ticket on - its not like you were taking up space, more leaving the cars where the dealer wanted them

I too cant think of any advantage for having a delay between scrap and hand-over, but seeing as yours is the only dealer who is following this practise, im just wondering what their thinking is on the matter. A destruction certificate is issued by the scrappie as soon as he takes possession of the car, with the dealer acting as the intermediary (similar to p/x to a trader) there is no need for this to be done before handover, you just fill in the correct part of the logbook, and get it sent off to dvla

it is fairly normal for an ordered car to be delivered, go through PDI and be handed over within 2 days. the longer the dealer has it sitting in their yard without the money forthcoming, is just bad business sense. Stock has a totally different way of being put through the dealership. Seeing as we are discussing scrappage, very few dealers have stock that they could plug down that route, most are dealing with built-to-order, which cant be left sitting idle on a forecourt. Tbh im suprised there are still manfucturers who have stock cars available, as since scrappage came in, most cars have been on 12wk+ leadtimes. Maybe in the early days of the scheme, but now? All the dealers i speak to, are finding it hard enough to source demonstrators, let alone have unregistered stock, that they would want to loose on a scrappage deal, where they make no money. Most are holding stock, so they have something to sell to retail price customers, who at the moment are walking, due to the lead times caused by scrappage

I can only reply to what you wrote, so this is why im clarifying my points now, that you have divulged a fuller picture

Flea

I didn't divulge a fuller picture. My original post was entirely clear. You aren't 'clarifying' you are attempting some pretty feeble post hoc justification.

Obviously 'all the dealers' you speak to are telling you something that isn't borne out by my experience.