vicious dog

Money_maker

Mutter wrote: »

If a breed is irrelevent, then why have them?
Let's all have mongrels, oops sorry, cross breeds.

A breed has characteristics. Would you see a cop controlling a crowd with a cocker spaniel? Shall we see border control governed by a Yorkshire Terrier?
No of course not, so much nonsense is displayed here.
The control would be by a rotty or GSD, the nose provided by a spaniel or lab.

Akita, bull anything, ridgeback, rottweiler are all to me dangerous breeds. Yes they may be ok with your family but I have a darling dog to protect.
As for riding

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get a horse.

Please read the thread. I have said that if the op was being threatened then it didn't matter what breed was threatening her but the fact she was being threatened on her own property by a dog. Think you missed the point here.

scheming_gypsy

Mutter wrote: »

If a breed is irrelevent, then why have them?
Let's all have mongrels, oops sorry, cross breeds.

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because to have cross breeds you need breeds to cross..

lil_me

Why would I respond with but I know these dogs better blah blah blah, my sons 10 now and these dogs have sadly passed away since, without incident, it's the same with police dogs, when they are working they are working, when they are playing they are playing, if they can't do that they shouldn't be in the job. I've seen a police dog drag a suspect to the floor then within minutes be playing with a child, they know their job. Should wrestlers not have children because they do a job which involves being agressive, same for soldiers etc etc? However irresponsible you think I am, yes, I do know what I am doing, no no incidents have ever occured in those 10 years, ever! I would leave no dog alone with a child. Unfortunately I have seen children bitten by several dogs including border collies (according to a police officer locally the most common reported for attacking people especially children) jack russell terrier (he went for me then my son as I was walking down a street) a poodle which decided to rip it's owners daughters leg open as she was running, yorkshire terrier which went for a postman aswell as a child but postman didn't report it, greyhound which was known to be gentle but the child he'd bitten picked up a dog from the floor he was chasing, dog which went for my son last week was an Old English Sheep dog (my son was in the field with a football which the dog decided he wanted). I am not stupid, I am more than aware of the injuries a dog can cause, but like has been said dead not breed! The dogs we and our family keep are Rotties, GSDs, Staffies, several crossbreeds inc my lab/springer. None of them have EVER bitten the children or anyone other than those who decided to break in (evidence DPs step Dad's arm, dog let go when he shouted at him as he realised who it was and bits of clothing occasionally found in the yard) If the attacks by other breeds made the headlines, which they won't, they reported the incident with the border collie to 7 newspapers who were not interested as it wasn't a bull breed/large dog, people might be more aware of exactly what the real statistics are!

Anyway enough of that, no reason for me to justify my actions to anyone really, I make adult decisions based on experience and knowledge instead of hearsay and scaremonger press reports.

OP hope you got something sorted

sad_dog_lady

a doberman that used to be beaten and starved at an essex scrap yard till rspca took them, unfortunetly 3 destroyed, we got n.o 4 .... eventually this dog used to come get me if my babies woke up,
now having had a rescued akita cross with two autistic boys and now rescued doberman colie cross and staffie .... next rescue one day will hopefully ave some rottie in it, what i cant stand are little dawgs with small dog sindrome of having to be noisy..prolly cause they are scared of being trodden on i guess. its never fair to tarnish all of a breed for the deed of one... a brown donkey bit me once ..does that mean we should cull them? the problem is society it represnts this persona of a breed being tough so that then appeals to people wanting that kinda dog, so by whining about it you are infact heping to perpetuate it. as a middle aged woman i am proud to own these breeds and show the world thatthey are no for the low lifes or the butch. ....heres an idea get your grany a stafie day !! not any butch lads would want one..theyd have to go get a pug

Mutter_2

Money_maker wrote: »

Please read the thread. I have said that if the op was being threatened then it didn't matter what breed was threatening her but the fact she was being threatened on her own property by a dog. Think you missed the point here.

Wasn't referring to your post Money Maker and did not miss the point, rather went off on a tangent.
My fault, sorry.

Mommyme I think has been far too lenient and patient,must have the patience of a Saint. Whether the dog is viscious or not is immaterial.The fact is OP is scared to enter her own home and to leave her child in the garden.
Has anyone suggested calling the dog warden?

I would never let my dog bother anyone. If a visitor is here, dog goes into another room. Only that once touched, he wants to be stroked all the time.
I never allowed my child to bother others either, not all like dogs or children!
So for a dog to be snarling at a window, chasing the OP into her own home and generally be intimidating is unforgivable.

I love animals, dogs especially, but not to bug those who dont.

Mommyme, please speak to the dog warden, reachable through your local council. He/she will be sympathetic I'm sure, and will advise. You should not have to live in fear like this.
If action's not taken now, we could be reading of a severe mauling or death and then what good would an "assessment" been.
Oh the raisin thing. Goodness, some here are so oversensitive. I took the remark for what it was. Lighten up. It would probably take two ton of raisins to have an affect. Poster was jocular. If this dog were my neighbour it would be dead by now.

MrsE_2

Money_maker wrote: »

Please read the thread. I have said that if the op was being threatened then it didn't matter what breed was threatening her but the fact she was being threatened on her own property by a dog. Think you missed the point here.

Yeah but somehow I think if it were a bad tempered chiuaua she wouldn't be on here fearing for her & her daughters life:rolleyes:

Mimi_Arc_en_ciel

Mutter wrote: »

Wasn't referring to your post Money Maker and did not miss the point, rather went off on a tangent.
My fault, sorry.

Mommyme I think has been far too lenient and patient,must have the patience of a Saint. Whether the dog is viscious or not is immaterial.The fact is OP is scared to enter her own home and to leave her child in the garden.
Has anyone suggested calling the dog warden?

I would never let my dog bother anyone. If a visitor is here, dog goes into another room. Only that once touched, he wants to be stroked all the time.
I never allowed my child to bother others either, not all like dogs or children!
So for a dog to be snarling at a window, chasing the OP into her own home and generally be intimidating is unforgivable.

I love animals, dogs especially, but not to bug those who dont.

Mommyme, please speak to the dog warden, reachable through your local council. He/she will be sympathetic I'm sure, and will advise. You should not have to live in fear like this.
If action's not taken now, we could be reading of a severe mauling or death and then what good would an "assessment" been.
Oh the raisin thing. Goodness, some here are so oversensitive. I took the remark for what it was. Lighten up. It would probably take two ton of raisins to have an affect. Poster was jocular. If this dog were my neighbour it would be dead by now.

Dog Wardens next on my list I expected them to come round last night causing trouble but we never had any and only heard the occasional drunk go past so . . .

Time will tell and all that!

LittleTinker

foxxymynx wrote: »

They're saying

• we won't stop the dog going into your garden
• we can't control the dog
• keep your child away from my dog or it will have your child

If a person in the street said "come one step closer to me and I'll have you" that's a threat.

I personally would ghave taken the neighbours comments as a threat.

BTW raisins to a dog, are/can be apparently leathal.

All of you who state raisins, grapes and chocolate are toxic to dogs are crackers.

You would need to feed them pounds of the damn things!

I heard someone rushed their dog to the vets the other day because they ate a grape.....for goodness sake!

I cant tell you how many dogs of mine have stolen chocolates (just before christmas one had 2 chocolate oranges) and raisins!

Steak with raisins! lol

foreign_correspondent

Grape/raisin poisoning isnt very well understood yet- some dogs seem to have a very low tolerance to them, whilst others seem much less affected.

Some dogs have died from eating surprisingly small amonts!

MrsTinks

LittleTinker wrote: »

All of you who state raisins, grapes and chocolate are toxic to dogs are crackers.

You would need to feed them pounds of the damn things!

I heard someone rushed their dog to the vets the other day because they ate a grape.....for goodness sake!

I cant tell you how many dogs of mine have stolen chocolates (just before christmas one had 2 chocolate oranges) and raisins!

Steak with raisins! lol

We're not crackers thanks...

Firstly I know of a dog that died from eating raisins - a standard bag size meant for a christmas cake about 5 years ago now.
Chocolate is definitely poisonous - well actually the theobromine in chocolate is. The quatity in a low quality chocolate like terry's is small and thus loads would need to be consumed (depending on the size of the dog) but a dark chocolate which a higher cocoa content has more theobromine and will require a much smaller quantity for the same dog.

Equally a small dog like say a chihuahua could be poinsoned by as little as 4 grapes according to some vets... it's size, health and quantity that dictate the likelyhood of the effect being serious.
And it's not my imagination btw: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1034677/Massive-increase-dogs-poisoned-chocolate-grapes--fed-owners.html

Whilst a 20 kg dog could be poisoned by as little as 160gr of dark chocolate (so think bordercollie size...) it would potentially take 1kg of milkchocolate to do the same damage.
Why is it so serious? Because there is NO antidote! The best treatment is induced vomiting before the dog ingests the chocolate properly to minimise the theobromine in the chocolate entering the bloodstream.
Humans btw can cnotrary to popular belief be poinsoned too... we can however process theobromine so it takes a LOT to poison us... like 10kgs for an average person of milk chocolate dunno about you but that's out of my range by a good few KGs even on a good day

Forgot to say: raisins/grapes cause renal failure so can take several days before showing signs...