Trying for a baby (12+ M/not straightforward)

nottslass_2

Nicki wrote: »

We were told at the outset that we'd have to pay £700 + £350 for bloodtests for the cycle, but that if the iui had to be cancelled for any reason, we'd pay £450 for the scans if less than 4 (we had 2), and £550 if 5. The bloodtests only need to be done once. We weren't told until Tuesday that the clinic wasn't open on Sundays, and when we were in on Thursday we asked whether we'd be better off booking a double insemination on Saturday and Monday just in case this happened and were told that wasn't necessary :rolleyes: .

For the first consultation, when he recommended IUI as the way forward, we paid an additional £450.

Given that my cycle is fairly regular, and now knowing that the clinic is closed on Sundays, it seems that IUI isn't going to be an option for us, as I'm always going to be ovulating over the weekend, so its going to be more likely than not that I will always lose the chance. Looking online, I can't see anywhere in London posting their opening hours so if IUI is the right option its hard to know where to go to get it.

Not sure what to do now tbh. Is there any point in going back to see this consultant or am I just throwing good money after bad? He was very good first time round but that was 10 years ago, and to waste a grand and a half before we even get off the starting blocks particularly in this economic climate is a bit tough.

OH says we just try again unassisted this month, but given we've been doing that for the last year and a half with not a hint of a BFP I'm not sure why he thinks that's going to be any good

OMG !!! I would contact HEFA and enquire whether you have cause for complaint against the clinic !!!! If there was any posibility that they would be unable to go ahead,due to the clinics opening hours,you should have been warned !!! It really adds insult to injury that you even enquired about booking for Saturday and Monday and were told it wasn't necessary. I know complaining won't help you this month,but at the very least,they should be giving you another go FOC.

mysmeg

Hi Notts Lass

My embryo transfer should be around about 12th to 15th December. It's not ideal being on tenderhooks all over christmas, but I don't mind really.

Good luck with yours - until folk have been through the roller coaster, nobody can comprehend what it feels like.

This time around I have to daily self inject a blood thinning medication , as my previous two miscarriages they say could have been down to blood clotting and not getting to placent. Will try anything

M

liloandstitch

Sorry to hear about your news Nicki - your best bet is to talk it through with the clinic - but if you are regular it would appear that they could have predicted it would be on a Sunday - could they not have done it on the Saturday anyway? You cant be the first person in the world with this problem - they must have some advice to give. I am sure you feel very let down emotionally by all this, yu are all psyched up for the go ahead, and you must now feel very down. My thoughts are with you.

Put me down for a fertility dance, I owe you all loads for all the dances and thoughts that you gave me - and you are right about the enthusiasm!!!!!!!

Hope you all had a good weekend lilo

sarahs999

NIcki, how cruel is life? That is so depressing, that just because of timings you can't get on with it all. Hugs to you, and to all going through a rough time.

I'm still waiting for my first period after my most recent miscarriage; it's six weeks today. It took six weeks last time so I'm expecting it any time now... and then back to that old regime of temping and charting. Sigh. Wen tto see my friend at the weekend who is due in January. I'm finding (to my relief) that I can feel genuinely happy and relaxed around my pregnant friends; somehow i can separate the sadness I feel for myself off to one side and not project it into a feeling of anger or jealousy about them. Which is a good thing, as I have so many pg/newborn friends at the moment!

Nicki

I thought I would pop in quickly with an update.

After an emotionally up and down weekend, and changing our minds every few minutes, hubbie and I have decided to go ahead with the IUI today anyway, even though we are aware the chances of success are now small.

Our thinking was that if we had known for sure that I would get the surge on Saturday, then I would have been booked in for a double IUI - one on Saturday morning and one this morning, as a failsafe. We have been bding as much as possible so it is just possible that we have succeeded already, but if we haven't there must be a small chance that we still can. We were using both the CB fertility monitor and the digital tests. The digi tests showed a surge which started on Saturday afternoon and was still continuing on Sunday morning. The FM showed yesterday and today as my two peak days. My understanding is that ovulation happens betwen 12 and 36 hours after the LH surge is detected, and that the egg can be fertilised up to 24 hours after it is released (though chances of success are obviously much higher if the sperm is there at the point it is released or beforehand). So if everything happened at the outer end of when it could happen there is still a chance, and worst case scenario at least we'll find out if there is a problem with OH's swimmers.

Having decided to do this though, and trying to be relaxed and not upset about things, the nurse from the clinic has just phoned me, as I was in the middle of posting and started an argument with me as to whether it was or wasn't forseeable that I would surge on Saturday :mad: . So rather than feeling resigned about things, I'm now both upset and angry again which maybe isn't the best state of mind to be trying to conceive on a last ditch attempt.

Anyway, if anyone is at home at the moment (or gets on very well with their colleagues) a fertility dance for us around lunchtime would be much appreciated :rotfl:

nottslass_2

Nicki wrote: »

I thought I would pop in quickly with an update.

After an emotionally up and down weekend, and changing our minds every few minutes, hubbie and I have decided to go ahead with the IUI today anyway, even though we are aware the chances of success are now small.

Our thinking was that if we had known for sure that I would get the surge on Saturday, then I would have been booked in for a double IUI - one on Saturday morning and one this morning, as a failsafe. We have been bding as much as possible so it is just possible that we have succeeded already, but if we haven't there must be a small chance that we still can. We were using both the CB fertility monitor and the digital tests. The digi tests showed a surge which started on Saturday afternoon and was still continuing on Sunday morning. The FM showed yesterday and today as my two peak days. My understanding is that ovulation happens betwen 12 and 36 hours after the LH surge is detected, and that the egg can be fertilised up to 24 hours after it is released (though chances of success are obviously much higher if the sperm is there at the point it is released or beforehand). So if everything happened at the outer end of when it could happen there is still a chance, and worst case scenario at least we'll find out if there is a problem with OH's swimmers.

Having decided to do this though, and trying to be relaxed and not upset about things, the nurse from the clinic has just phoned me, as I was in the middle of posting and started an argument with me as to whether it was or wasn't forseeable that I would surge on Saturday :mad: . So rather than feeling resigned about things, I'm now both upset and angry again which maybe isn't the best state of mind to be trying to conceive on a last ditch attempt.

Anyway, if anyone is at home at the moment (or gets on very well with their colleagues) a fertility dance for us around lunchtime would be much appreciated :rotfl:

Got an appointment at the fertility clinic myself at 1pm, to sign the HEFA paper work,but I promise that I'll find a quite corner and "do the dance" for you !!!!! *please note I'll hold you personally responsible if I get carted off in a straight jacket (but it it'll be worth it for a BFP )

Anyway,take a few deep breaths,and remember that it 'ain't over till AF appears !!

Best of Luck X

skintbutsmiling01

what a crappy few days for some people I am so sorry for nicki nottslass and mysmeg grrr these "professionals" make my blood boil. Its like being told "oh you'll never concieve naturally" over the phone- heartless and insensitive. I know they see a lot of people but come on!
My OHs tablets finish in 20 days then we have to do all his tests again, depending on those results its clomid or icsi. I have a feeling the tablets havent had much effect so ICSI it will be.

FairyElephant_2

nottslass wrote: »

Got my prescription for my drugs yesterday,In true MSE style,I started to ring round and compare prices.My findings were very,very interesting,without boring you with all the details,my findings from the 3 places I managed to "price check" today were -
Direct from the clinic - £928
Direct from sherring - £672 (inc delivery)
Local Chemist - a massive £1929 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats a difference of £1257 !!! me thinks I know where I'll be getting my drugs !!!

Hi Nottlass - that is an amazing difference in price! Can I ask which drugs you get for that?
As I said in a previous post, I don't get to choose where I get mine from (as far as I know - I have never asked mind you!) but this latest time I paid £410. The clinic orders them for me and they delivered to me. I received:
Norethisterone tablets (14 tablets = 7 days),
Buseralin for injection (4 x 5.5ml bottles - I inject 0.5ml every night),
Disposable syringes,
Gonal F injection pens (not sure how many - they are sealed in fridge - I remeber I had to buy more of this last time as I wasn't ready at 1st scan)
Final injection (x1, can't remember the name of it!)
2 packs pessaries for after the ET

I'm thinking that, if all goes to plan, ET for me should be around 10th Dec, so I'm only about a week ahead of you!

Good luck,

FE

FairyElephant_2

What a busy w/e on here - finally caught up!

Seems lots of people having a frustrating time of it at the moment, so (((BIG HUGS))) to all who need them.

Nicki - I agree that some of the staff at your clinic sound awful, and once you get through this stage of treatment I think a strong letter of complaint is def. in order... I think I posted on here before how I took one of the nurses I dealt with to task for being insensitive - I know they are just 'doing their job' but they should understand how fragile our emotions can be at this point, and deal with us accordingly!
On a lighter note, I just had 5 mins alone in the office so did a little jig for you (minus the symbolic equipment I'm afraid!) and am sending lots of positive thoughtwaves your way as I eat my lunch!

Lilo - I'm 38, and yes I do feel positively 'geriatric' sometimes....DSS#2 (who is 14) referred to his dad & me as '..middle-aged people like you..' at the weekend, and I felt quite devastated! never seen it that way before, but I suppose I AM middle-aged - how did that happen without me noticing it?!?

Mysmeg - I must be at a very similar stage to you on the IVF...are you inhaling or injecting to downreg?

Skinty - keep smiling! There's always a chance that the tablets HAVE worked...

Sarahs - well done on being able to sort your emotions out re your PG friends - it is a very hard thing to achieve, and I really struggle with it - hats off to you girl!

Hope everyone's week imrpoves as it goes along....

FE

Nicki

Thanks everyone.

Well, I just got back after a nightmare trying to get to the clinic. It is a 30 minute journey by public transport from where I live, but I left an hour early to be on the safe side. Public transport wasn't running due to a fault on the circle line, so got a cab (25 minute drive). Roadworks and diversions meant the journey took an hour and 20 minutes and I was on eggs that I'd miss my slot!

When I got there, they'd put someone in ahead of me (which of course was fine) but I'd come with a full bladder as advised, and had to wait more than an hour after my due time, so was starting to get a bit jumpy!

But so glad we did it. The doctor who performed it said as soon as he put the speculum in that it looked like I had either just ovulated a few minutes before or was just about to do so and that we couldn't have timed it better without having a scan every hour!! (After all that...) The sperm test also showed that before the treatment OH's guys had good motility but significantly below average density, but their washing had brought it up to a very acceptable level. So we've probably found the reason why we weren't conceiving, and if it doesn't work this time, its certainly worth a few more attempts (though not necessarily organised by the same referring consultant and obnoxious nurse!

I really appreciate the good wishes and although I'm going to try and not obsess for the next two weeks, so may not drop into this thread quite so often as a result, I will be sure to keep up to speed with this month's IVF'ers and keep everything crossed for you.