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fozmcfc

stemcgoo wrote: »

Exposed as a SCAM you say? I am sure you have a good grasp of the english language, so when you sign up for their "scam" did you deliberately ignore all the information about monthly charges when you willfully handed over your card details? Or did Shopper Discounts reach into your pocket and steal your card details as well???
Wow, if they did, I want a piece of that magic software they are using myself....or maybe people should just READ the terms and conditions first....just a maybe, but for READING the t&cs consider it RESEARCH well done.

Many people are claiming they did not give their details over and/or tick boxes and/or fill in their address and click sign me up etc and say they have been signed up for it automatically.

I don't believe though that any one of these people have actually taken the matter further, because if they have been signed up automatically then I guess that is theft.

marleyboy

fozmcfc wrote: »

Many people are claiming they did not give their details over and/or tick boxes and/or fill in their address and click sign me up etc and say they have been signed up for it automatically.

I don't believe though that any one of these people have actually taken the matter further, because if they have been signed up automatically then I guess that is theft.

Your quite right, which is why it is so easy to reclaim ALL your money. Far better to pay those who notice a discrepancy off quickly, than take a chance in them taking it any further. Most people will be happy to settle for a full refund than drag it through a court.

stemcgoo

marleyboy wrote: »

YES I said "EXPOSED AS A SCAM", however am more than happy to correct you in that I have NEVER signed up to them. Obviously you have not read the thread properly so are in NO POSITION to call ignorance on anyone.

So famous is this SCAM being so regularly reported by so many sources (the ones you obviously missed in your ignorance), that even WIKI has mentioned them.

I would say do your own research, but its quite obvious to me you are completely incapable of doing so.

Ignorant? Incapable? WOW, take it personal don't you?

As for your point about SDR being reported as a SCAM, well maybe there have just been lots of people complaining about their tactics because they couldnt be bothered to read small print? If enough people make noise then for sure it will be heard.

Maybe I will go on WIKI now and post my own assertation that SDR are NOT a scam thus making it right by your standards.

£20 cheque off SDR last month, £92 in the post this month, already another £20 pending for next....clearly I am doing something right, and for the record, if I took your advice then I would be considerably worse off now wouldnt I? I hope you aren't a qualified financial advisor!!!

marleyboy

Maybes and probabilities are not facts, they are second guesses made by those with nothing to offer in the way of evidence other than their own opinion.

As this is all you have, other than being entitled to have one, you really have nothing else on the subject, I think I will stick to the good old tried and tested evidence than your opinion, as is my entitlement.

Do feel free to post your opinion on Wiki, and maybe include Watchdog, Trading standards, The Mirror, The Guardian, The Times, The US Senate and any other investigative organisation that has said likewise. Do feel free to use this company whether or not the £15 fee per Month for a service that is absolutely FREE elsewhere is making you considerably better off.

I am not a financial advisor (strange how you throw that in out of desperation), but would rather YOU and anybody else follows their own research on the subject of SDR, as I have done myself, and come up with your own decision on the company.

My decision is solely based on the facts as they are, so far you have not (nor are likely to) persuaded me that the facts are wrong, particularly with the use of the word "maybe".

Indeed those many MANY people who have complained because of their tactics have more clearly been heard, your voice is just too singular and insignificant for me to rely on, best to just accept that as it is, else you will look even more silly with your post trolling than you do already.

woody2105

This has happened to me ever since i paid online for a pizza hut delivery

aka666

it has happened to my son, mandmdirect were the culprits, but got to say shopper discounts were really good and refunded his money straight away

Idiot_hunter

marleyboy wrote: »

Maybes and probabilities are not facts, they are second guesses made by those with nothing to offer in the way of evidence other than their own opinion.

As this is all you have, other than being entitled to have one, you really have nothing else on the subject, I think I will stick to the good old tried and tested evidence than your opinion, as is my entitlement.

Do feel free to post your opinion on Wiki, and maybe include Watchdog, Trading standards, The Mirror, The Guardian, The Times, The US Senate and any other investigative organisation that has said likewise. Do feel free to use this company whether or not the £15 fee per Month for a service that is absolutely FREE elsewhere is making you considerably better off.

I am not a financial advisor (strange how you throw that in out of desperation), but would rather YOU and anybody else follows their own research on the subject of SDR, as I have done myself, and come up with your own decision on the company.

My decision is solely based on the facts as they are, so far you have not (nor are likely to) persuaded me that the facts are wrong, particularly with the use of the word "maybe".

Indeed those many MANY people who have complained because of their tactics have more clearly been heard, your voice is just too singular and insignificant for me to rely on, best to just accept that as it is, else you will look even more silly with your post trolling than you do already.

You have freely admitted that you have never joined Shopper Discounts & Rewards, so what makes you think you opinion is any less incorrect than any of the other people on here?

Oh I know why, Its because you know the "facts"! Silly me!!

It might seem hard for you to take in, but have you considered that the people posting about the UK Shopper Discounts & Rewards actually just made a mistake, and are trying to pass the blame away from themselves so that they don't feel stupid anymore? - In the same way that when you trip over your own feet, you automatically look down at the floor and, if there are people watching, make out as if a paving slab is loose. People feel stupid and they want someone to blame. Who better than the people they signed up to online for a membership!!!

Ok maybe some people actually didnt know. Fair enough. I bet that most people did and just forgot.

So I can't understand how people who have never used this service can justify themselves commenting on it. It would be like me commenting on the best route for you to take to work. - I don't know you. I don't know where you live or where or even if you work. But I'll base my comments on "Facts" and try and give you directions.

People jumping on a bandwagon based on "facts" are playing a dangerous game for all involed.


Seeing as you like facts Marleyboy, I have a few for you:

It is a fact that Shopper Discounts & Rewards and other companys like them are governed by the same laws in the UK as any other financial organisiation and thefore by law are obliged to display their charges clearly, in exactly the same way prices are on display in your local supermarket.

It is a fact that people willingly input their details. Nobody forces them to do it. It is optional, and as said above, clearly displaying the prices.

It is a fact that any online blogs etc will only ever display negative comments. For example, people wont post about a good holiday experience, only a bad one. It doesn't matter if the resort/location is a 5 star hotel somewhere exotic, or a damp tent in Slough. If people feel they did not have a good time there, they are more likley to write about it.

It is a fact that some people posting on here, actually use Shopper Discounts & Rewards, people like Stemcgoo, who has given proof that they SAVE money!!!!

Its hardly a "scam" if you can SAVE money. Yes, SAVE MONEY, MAKE A PROFIT, BENEFIT FROM IT,call it what you will. That's a FACT.

So if we ignore all of the facts, it must be true that it's a scam!



Seeing as your such an expert on things you know nothing about, what do you think of that new colour I've painted my walls with?

I bet your answer to that question is based on about as much factual knowledge as your opinion on Shopper Discounts & Rewards.

The clue is in the name Marleyboy - and you've just been hunted

fozmcfc

Idiot Hunter, I have in the past made the same sort of post as yours in this thread myself.

I do agree that certainly most people here who have been charged have been so, because they have signed up, by accepting a discount off their next purchase off the sites associated with SD&R and some have admitted this. The fact that many have been charged for months on end before even noticing it, it speaks volumes about those people who don't even check their finances every month, let alone what boxes they are ticking.

I myself have been offered the discount off next purchase on several sites but have never ticked the box etc and I haven't been charged, so yes I'm still sceptical that people are having their details past on without them having signed up for SD&R.

Unfortunately no one has so far decided to take the matter further, because if their details are passed on without consent then that is a serious matter.

Why has no one taken it further, prehaps as Marleyboy has said, because they are just happy to get their money back, but prehaps because they know the probably did tick the box.

But that also begs the question, why do SD&R dish out refunds to everybody who complains. Surely if they have proof of sign up then they should not have to give anybody any money back. The fact they do, does suggest prehaps they don't always conduct their business by the book.

marleyboy

Idiot_hunter wrote: »

You have freely admitted that you have never joined Shopper Discounts & Rewards, so what makes you think you opinion is any less incorrect than any of the other people on here?

Oh I know why, Its because you know the "facts"! Silly me!!

It might seem hard for you to take in, but have you considered that the people posting about the UK Shopper Discounts & Rewards actually just made a mistake, and are trying to pass the blame away from themselves so that they don't feel stupid anymore? - In the same way that when you trip over your own feet, you automatically look down at the floor and, if there are people watching, make out as if a paving slab is loose. People feel stupid and they want someone to blame. Who better than the people they signed up to online for a membership!!!

Ok maybe some people actually didnt know. Fair enough. I bet that most people did and just forgot.

So I can't understand how people who have never used this service can justify themselves commenting on it. It would be like me commenting on the best route for you to take to work. - I don't know you. I don't know where you live or where or even if you work. But I'll base my comments on "Facts" and try and give you directions.

People jumping on a bandwagon based on "facts" are playing a dangerous game for all involed.


Seeing as you like facts Marleyboy, I have a few for you:

It is a fact that Shopper Discounts & Rewards and other companys like them are governed by the same laws in the UK as any other financial organisiation and thefore by law are obliged to display their charges clearly, in exactly the same way prices are on display in your local supermarket.

It is a fact that people willingly input their details. Nobody forces them to do it. It is optional, and as said above, clearly displaying the prices.

It is a fact that any online blogs etc will only ever display negative comments. For example, people wont post about a good holiday experience, only a bad one. It doesn't matter if the resort/location is a 5 star hotel somewhere exotic, or a damp tent in Slough. If people feel they did not have a good time there, they are more likley to write about it.

It is a fact that some people posting on here, actually use Shopper Discounts & Rewards, people like Stemcgoo, who has given proof that they SAVE money!!!!

Its hardly a "scam" if you can SAVE money. Yes, SAVE MONEY, MAKE A PROFIT, BENEFIT FROM IT,call it what you will. That's a FACT.

So if we ignore all of the facts, it must be true that it's a scam!



Seeing as your such an expert on things you know nothing about, what do you think of that new colour I've painted my walls with?

I bet your answer to that question is based on about as much factual knowledge as your opinion on Shopper Discounts & Rewards.

The clue is in the name Marleyboy - and you've just been hunted

Sorry I find you way too far beneath my feet to have relevance.

I will stick to the facts as they have been reported, and will happily repeat that your opinion (as that is all you have to offer other than determination), is insignificant to me.

I will also reiterate to you, that YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION whilst politely reminding you I AM ENTITLED TO MINE, your determination not to accept that only serves to make me even LESS convinced you know what your talking about.

The way I see it, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPOSED AS A SCAM. That is enough for me to deduce NOT to do business with them.

You can bleat and stamp your feet over it as much as you like, a singular newbie member with nothing more to offer than what you have, is hardly likely to make me anymore convinced this company is not a scam, moreso a newbie who's sole reason for signing up to MSE is to demand SDR is a safe bet, I would class as suspect. In this I am not convinced one little iota you are likely to convince the thousands of members on here who have been SCAMMED, that it is not a SCAM.

I will happily and constantly re-iterate that this company was exposed as a scam, safe in the knowledge that I HAVE EVIDENCE to back it up, (of which still exists in this very thread).

You can rant about it as much as you wish, I have the added bonus of ignoring you from here on. Feel free to rant over it on the faint hope someone might actually believe your tripe. I DONT!

As much as to say that I will not cease in reminding members to do their research, including yourself.

On the same token I will not stop providing such research for those who HAVE been scammed by them, no matter what you think about it.

On this note; THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER!

mavisangelica

Booked hubby a flight with Ryanair and a coach with National Express and both have linked themselves with Shopper Discounts. They have been very 'clever', especially Ryanair. Once I had booked the flight the only button I could see to press was one that said 'continue' and then in smaller letters it said that you would be joining Shopper Discounts (or something similar). I imagine that a lot of people will click on the button thinking that it was the final step in booking the flight.