TV Licence article Discussion

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GypsyRose wrote: »

I have advised them every two years since and have a letter showing I must advise them in 2020.

There's no "must" about it.

There's absolutely no obligation to communicate with TVL, as confirmed by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport:-

Mr. Holloway: To ask the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport whether those who do not have a television set are required to inform Television Licensing that they do not require a TV licence?

Mr. Woodward: A television licence is required to install or use a television receiver, as defined in regulations made by the Secretary of State, rather than a television set. Members of the public who do not require a television licence are under no obligation to inform TV Licensing of the fact.

and this time knocked my back door!

Oh Er Missus.

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cw18 wrote: »

because I'm LLF

So the change wouldn't affect you anyway.

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Britannia12345 wrote: »

it's based on an honesty system.

Honesty and the BBC. Now there's an Oxymoron, if I ever heard one.

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roddydogs wrote: »

No one believes all that "I never watch live tv" stuff

I believe it, because I never watch live TV, or for that matter, catch-up any more.

Cornucopia

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Honesty and the BBC. Now there's an Oxymoron, if I ever heard one.

It's certainly not an "honesty system" in any meaningful way.

It's more of a war of attrition based on whether the sheer scale of the task will defeat TVL, or whether TVL's somewhat dubious grasp of the law will defeat a not very well-informed target population.

FreeBear

GypsyRose wrote: »

I feel that was a blatant attempt to intimidate me. Surely they should have told me who they were when I asked and provided Id? It’s what we are told to do when answering a knock at the door, ask for id before opening.

They are required to identify themselves and provide ID when asked - This is written in to their training documents and reiterated on the TVL web site - https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/visit

What are your rules of conduct for enquiry officers?

When our officers visit a property they will:

• Prove their identity by showing an identity card. If requested, they’ll also provide a telephone number so the person being visited can confirm the information on the card.
• Explain why they are visiting and be polite, courteous and fair.

Silvertabby

Cornucopia wrote: »

Totally accept that it probably isn't the solution for your neighbour, but any reasonably new TV (one with a spare HDMI socket) can access all of that content using a Now TV box/stick and various other similar devices, that start from £15 or so (brand new, cheaper second-hand).

That's a payback within 5 weeks on the full Licence Fee rate.

Will mention that to her, but she just doesn't do change. The freeview channel number for one of her favourite programmes changed recently, causing a panic. Mr S tried to re-tune her set for her, but her tv aerial just wasn't up to the job so he suggested changing the aerial for a more modern one - but you'd have thought that he had suggested that she change the whole roof as well !.. In the end, he carted the tv to our house (luckily, just across the road) and re-tuned it using our aerial - and it still worked when he returned it to her.

P.S. She has broadband, but doesn't use it herself - it's just there for when her family come to stay. She has had the same broadband deal (and gas and electric) since her husband died over 10 years ago. Mr S has offered to look at better deals for her, but she just says that it's not worth the hassle.

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If requested, they’ll also provide a telephone number so the person being visited can confirm the information on the card.

I wouldn't advise using that phone number, as it would be a fake as the ID Card.

Mind you, I wouldn't advise talking to doorsteppers, full stop.

JimmyTheWig

Britannia12345 wrote: »

It says on the 'apply for a refund' part of the site that you may have to provide evidence for a refund. How does this apply to the fact that I will no longer be watching live tv? The whole site seems to be designed to make it as awkward as possible to cancel the licence.

When I went through this process with them, I suggested sending them photos of us sitting around not watching TV. They didn't agree that was sufficient evidence!
The "evidence" is the fact that you have cancelled your licence.

cw18

TV licence sales drop for first time in a decade as BBC viewers switch to Netflix and Amazon Prime


I'm interested in finding out whether the proposed BritBox venture mentioned in the article will require a licence or not.......