Here I go again ….

Rosie1001

QrizB said:

Hopefully it's not too soon to congratulate you on your switch to Octopus!

I hope not  as well …

WiserMiser

Rosie1001 said:

as long as I know what time my offpeak is etc … I’ll just try and forget about it …

The only way to know what time the off-peak kicks in is to look at the meter on the wall.  Forget what websites or customer service agents tell you, all that counts is when your meter changes over.

Beware that some areas have a two-hour peak rate interval: if the cheap rate ends nine hours after it started, you won't have struck lucky with 'E9' timings !

Scot_39

Ok the estimated reading in Aug / Nov makes it impossible to resolve what was really going on say summer (May to Aug) but if look at May 25th 2024 -> Jan 2025

But they also appear out of sequence - so not really sure what EDF were up to - ah twigged - twin meters of course.

                  25 May->25 Aug  25 Aug->25 Nov     25 Nov->1 Jan

Day           55433C->55758   14.5->17.9              56189E->56971C                                               

                  325.2@30.16       3.37@30.16           781.9@30.16p

Night         11151C->11206E  93106E->95003E  11289E->11407C

                  55@10.54            1896.7@10.54       117.4@10.54p

                   

You will note not only are the intermediate figures for Aug on Nov on that bill out of sequence - they are also not matching on successive bills, so hunted around your old posts for a bit as had seen past photos and bills and so found this, but couldn't quickly see a whole system photo of your old metering.  (Did you post one - not just of the RTS and its cabling in an early post)

I guess the fact one uses Night and the other Off Peak was also a pretty good clue if had spotted it.

However If I go back to the post here - that covers a bill covering the full period 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81261313/#Comment_81261313

Day                      12C                                                     12C                          

Off Peak               91972C       93106E      950003E       95517C

And the Aug to Nov numbers above are those intermediate numbers on the second meter - so you posted them in the midst of the other meter ?

Curiously the day reading is in line with the RTS meter rate 1 posted on 31st Jan here at 57335, https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81239456/#Comment_81239456

Did both night readings come from the Horstman ?

Taking the customers readings over May - Jan 1st = c221 days 31 wks / 7 months and from both new posts above and the old 31st Jan post

 Day = 56971C - 55433C = 1538 kWh @ 30.16   - or approx 220 per month

 Night1 = 11407C - 11151C = 256 kWh @10.54     - or approx 36 kWh pm  

 Night2 = 95517C - 91972C = 3545 kWh @ 10.54  - or approx 500 kWh pm - weighted heavily to winter months.

 Total                                    = 3801 kWh

So Night1= 36 kWhpm  - c1 kWh per night on night - doesnt appear to be much more than background / lights / FF etc - so assume all the heavy loading either on old day - for things like hot water or on night2. (perhaps even immersion het tank on night 2 - but an electric shower on day1 / night 1 depending on timing)

But sadly without readings for Aug and Nov cannot use to differentiate summer vs winter with heating likely use.

Until those NSH kick in and make snug £+ a day cheaper potentially (7hr max x 2x 3.4 kW x 3.4p/kWh = £1.60 - c£200 over 4 months on high) = its likely nearly as cheap on E7 as it was on E10 Mar - Jul. Even the fix premium is of the same order as the c1.2p multirate price drop I saw in July.

As my other post above - take a few weeks off once you are happy with any Octopus meter update / operation - to your new E7 rates and times - and then use the readings from that to guide a future decision.  

Rosie1001

Only had one meter.. the horseman one .

 it give day rate , night rate , then a third reading that never changed , then a heat reading so 4 readings altogether 


I can’t figure out the bills either … I’ve been right thru last years … they do a lot of reverse charges and amend on them 

Rosie1001

So that old pic you found Was the heat mpan … 

Normal Electric would have been billed further down 

Rosie1001

From website not app

Rosie1001

From website 

Rosie1001

From website 

Rosie1001

From website 

Rosie1001

Just Got my bill for this month 


compared the dates to last months and they overlap …I am so confused by their billing