UC:Mix age couple Migration Notice

TimeLord1

It means that you have contribution-related ESA entitlement also with an income-related top-up. So part of your ESA will be paid fortnightly and the income-related amount monthly by Universal Credit. The legacy ESA contribution amount becomes.  New Style ESA.

Claretblue75

So I am a bit confused now”

so are you saying we will recieve UC as a couple & I will recieve New style ESA as well
just for me!!!!
l thought the whole point of me/us getting migration notices would be that ESA would end completely & we should recieve UC only!

Please clarify, Thanks

Spoonie_Turtle

Claretblue75 said:

So I am a bit confused now”

so are you saying we will recieve UC as a couple & I will recieve New style ESA as well
just for me!!!!
l thought the whole point of me/us getting migration notices would be that ESA would end completely & we should recieve UC only!

Please clarify, Thanks

You will get payments of both, but the amount of your ESA will be deducted in full from UC. 

So you'll get a lower UC payment because together with the ESA it adds up to the same as if you just received your maximum UC entitlement.

TimeLord1

Yes, that's correct. Only part of your ESA is income-based, probably the Disability Income Guarantee Payment, or DIG. The other part was contribution based so still paid every two weeks as New style ESA. 

Claretblue75

Thanks for your replies:(spoonie&timelord)👍 

With the new rates of ESA 25/26 just coming into effect & my wife’s new State Pension increase we will be entitled to;

£230.25 per week(Full State Pension)
£921.00 every 4 weeks:(Full State Pension)

With regard to My/Our current ESA award we should/will be recieving;

Couple rate ————-£144.65
Support group———-£  48.50
Carer premium———-£  46.40
Pension premium——-£153.45
                                   —————
                                   £393.00 Minus
State pension             £230.25                       
Equals                        £162.75

So £162.75 per week is my esa Income Related award(£325.50 every Two weeks)
My/Our Award as of Now✅                        
 
   

                                  

TimeLord1

That's going to be mostly New Style ESA with the income UC part being the carer premium.

And the SPA  state pension just a deduction.


@Newcad

Claretblue75

So how much will/should I/we recieve in our UC payment once we have started the process(filled in the claim form)

Re:I am in the support group(LCWRA)

Re:wife receives full state pension 

Re:We have no children(No child element UC)

Re:Wife is my full time carer(35hours)

Re:We recieve £325.50 every 2 weeks(IRESA)

Question:Timelord1;Are you saying I will be on New style ESA(Single person)once we have completed the process of Migrating over to Universal Credit.

Also who is @Newcad

Will I/we recieve the Carer premium?

Sorry,Just a bit Overwhelmed&confused😩

Any Clarity welcomed

THANK YOU ALL✌️

ps:Off to bed 

TimeLord1

You won't see a decrease in any money; it's just paid out in separate ways. I can't remember if you have housing benefit; I'll look back.

TimeLord1

Ok, so your housing costs and carer premium are what universal credit should be paying eventually monthly.

Your wife's pension is paid monthly by DWP
 not by Universal credit but used as a deduction 

The rest is your contribution ESA that will become New Style ESA paid fortnightly. 

Newcad

Hi @Claretblue75

I'm Newcad, TimeLord1 was just giving me a shout to see if I could help here.

At the moment your ESA is made up of:

• CB ESA - Standard Allowance and Support Group. (£193.15)
• IR ESA - Carer premium and Pensioner Premium. (£199.85)

Your partners State pension is then deducted from the total.

The IR ESA part will migrate into UC and you will be paid a LCWRA element of £423.27 a month.

The CB ESA part will continue as 'New Style ESA' and will be paid separately from UC at £386.30 every 2-weeks, however as it's 'unearned income' that will then be deducted at £836.98 a month from your UC entitlement.

We don't appear to have everything that we would need to calculate how much UC you should get.
for example: Do you also get Carers Allowance, separately to ESA?

What we can say for now:

• You will get the Standard Allowance for a couple, you will get the LCWRA element, you will get Housing Element for your rent (which will pay the same as your current HB does). You might get a Transitional Element to make sure that your UC entitlement is not less than your previous entitlements combined.
• You will have deductions from you UC entitlement for the 'unearned income' from ESA and State Pension.

To work out how much UC you should be entitled to use one of the benefits calculators, the Entitledto calculator can handle Mixed Age Couples migrating to UC, and can calculate any Transitional Element that may due.
(It can also tell you if there will be any change to your Council Tax payments, that can happen).

Put in your details and it will calculate what you should get paid when you migrate to UC
Start here with the 'For Individuals' section: https://www.entitledto.co.uk/