Smart meter for storage heaters

Rosie1001

Scrounger said:

Rosie1001 said:

It’s done ….

@Rosie1001, thanks for the update, looks a decent enough installation (and you got your isolation switches too!).

Any idea what those smaller red and black wires are used for (top right)?


Scrounger

I have no idea to be honest, and can’t see where they are coming from either , 

edit ..
just looked , they are split out a of cable that runs along … shower maybe ??.

Scrounger

Rosie1001 said:

Scrounger said:

Rosie1001 said:

It’s done ….

@Rosie1001, thanks for the update, looks a decent enough installation (and you got your isolation switches too!).

Any idea what those smaller red and black wires are used for (top right)?


Scrounger

I have no idea to be honest, and can’t see where they are coming from either , 

edit ..
just looked , they are split out a of cable that runs along … shower maybe ??.

That circuit is protected only by the main fuse (60A?) and this is far from ideal.


Scrounger

Rosie1001

Have I had the right meter fitted , will I have one or two mpans ?.

scrounger … my electrics are getting upgraded , that’s why I needed the isolation switches 

Rosie1001

Scrounger said:

Rosie1001 said:

Scrounger said:

Rosie1001 said:

It’s done ….

@Rosie1001, thanks for the update, looks a decent enough installation (and you got your isolation switches too!).

Any idea what those smaller red and black wires are used for (top right)?


Scrounger

I have no idea to be honest, and can’t see where they are coming from either , 

edit ..
just looked , they are split out a of cable that runs along … shower maybe ??.

That circuit is protected only by the main fuse (60A?) and this is far from ideal.


Scrounger

It been like that for over 30 years apparently… I never look on in meter cupboard expect to read the meter … I certainly don’t touch anything else 

Scot_39

Do they red and black from the 24/7 isolator - henley split - go into a flat pair cable or sheathing and then that into whiter of two isolator / fuse box with 3 fuses - the other larger rated grey pair - maybe running along and down to the RHS for a main consumer unit - taped together with black tape or some such and sitting at one stage on top of the comms hub ?

The restricted isolator feeding the smaller of the 2 isolator / fuse blocks in grey.

PS

From the EDMI manual - there should be up to two switch / meter contactor status indications about 40% of the way across the top of the meter - next to imprt type text location - the upper o_/  _o   with an M indicates the master relay (both ports 4 and 5) - if that is on - your supply is disconnected - so you should never see it.

The lower L indicates the state of the restriced load control relay.

The manual says - L icon is on - LCS is OPEN - so restriced feed if off.

See key to display on page 19 here

https://www.edmi-meters.com/europe/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ES-12B-Product-Guide-v1.0.pdf

It appears to be present in the photo. So hopefully taken in a peak period.

Check it before and after one of the e10 switch times to confirm.

Rosie1001

Scot_39 said:

Do they red and black go into a flat pair cable and then that into smaller white isolator / fuse box with 3 fuses - the other larger rated grey pair - maybe running along and down to the RHS for a main consumer unit - taped together with black tape or somesuch and sitting at one stage on top of the comms hub ?

The restricted feeding the smaller of the 2 isolator / fuse blocks in grey.

From the EDMI manual - there should be two switches about 40% of the way across the top of the meter - next to imprt tpye text location - the upper o_/ -o   with an M indicates the master relay (both ports 4 and 5) - if that is on - your supply is disconnected - so you should never see it.

The lower L indicates the state of the restriced load control relay.

The manual says - L icon is on - LCS is OPEN - so restriced feed if off.

It appears to be present in the photo. So hopefully taken in a peak period.

Check it before and after one of the e10 switch times to confirm.

I will try and get clearer pictures tomorrow to show wiring 

inspectorperez

Rosie1001 said:

Also .. can anyone help on how to read this meter please 

Think this should work for you. 

From the image you have posted, your meter appears to be exactly the same as mine.

"* Hold OK until it enters the ‘Main Menu’, you will see ‘Billing’ appear
* Hold OK to enter the ‘Billing’ sub-menu
* Using the arrows, scroll to ‘Advanced’ (2 pushes of the > button)
* Hold OK to enter the ‘Advanced’ sub-menu, you will see ‘TOUmtrx’ appear
* Hold OK to enter the ‘TOUmatrx’ sub-menu, you will see ‘RATE1’ appear
* Use the arrows to cycle the rates you need to submit (Rate 1, Rate 2)"

Rosie1001

Scott ..where  I am checking ??? On the screen ??

so L means peak electric …what means off peak ??? That’s my main concern … that is my heating 

Scot_39

The L Contactor - is shown next to the T of the IMPRT txt - and above the 2nd and 3rd O.  Middle of top of screen.

If that question was to me - re load control switch (so I assume rate selection too)

In that picture - looks like heating off and the peak rate register should have been incrementing.

I dont know if you can enter it - but the manual actually has a load switching event log too - which gives last 100 dates / times of activity and a code. See c page32.  That might already contain a record for say 1600 and might very soon contain a record for 2000 - or whatever your e10 times are.

But the main user indiciaton - is I suspect the little contact symbol with the L for those without an IHD or any suitable LED's on device switches / spurs to indicate power.

Did they tell you how long it would take IHD to sync ?

Not sure - but you might want to maybe switch it on / off - occassionally over next few days.

IF you post the model EDF supplied - a user of that model might know more about how long it took.

Rosie1001

Scot_39 said:

Do they red and black from the 24/7 isolator - henley split - go into a flat pair cable or sheathing and then that into whiter of two isolator / fuse box with 3 fuses - the other larger rated grey pair - maybe running along and down to the RHS for a main consumer unit - taped together with black tape or some such and sitting at one stage on top of the comms hub ?

The restricted isolator feeding the smaller of the 2 isolator / fuse blocks in grey.

PS

From the EDMI manual - there should be up to two switch / meter contactor status indications about 40% of the way across the top of the meter - next to imprt type text location - the upper o_/  _o   with an M indicates the master relay (both ports 4 and 5) - if that is on - your supply is disconnected - so you should never see it.

The lower L indicates the state of the restriced load control relay.

The manual says - L icon is on - LCS is OPEN - so restriced feed if off.

See key to display on page 19 here

https://www.edmi-meters.com/europe/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ES-12B-Product-Guide-v1.0.pdf

It appears to be present in the photo. So hopefully taken in a peak period.

Check it before and after one of the e10 switch times to confirm.

This is the best pic I can get , I should be on normal electric now , is that right ????