Smart meter for storage heaters

Ildhund

Phones4Chris said:

... the meter type could look like 1423-B BUT I think it's actually 1422-B. Try your image enhancement on it and see what comes up.

My poor best efforts only reinforced my earlier opinion: it's a 1423-B:
  


I can only guess at what that means, so perhaps 5-wire, 2-element with both 100A and 2A auxiliary load control switches. Aclara's documentation doesn't seem to have caught up with their product development yet.

Phones4Chris

Ildhund said:

I can only guess at what that means, so perhaps 5-wire, 2-element with both 100A and 2A auxiliary load control switches. Aclara's documentation doesn't seem to have caught up with their product development yet.

Most likely, as a number of their other documents don't seem to have been updated for other things either. So your best guess for a 1423-B could be right (as a 1433-B is a polyphase version), can't find anything anywhere else, not even a current certification listing for the 14xx-B range other than a NCSC listing (no doubt a .gov listing error!).

Scot_39

The 1422B also iirc independently meters the second import delivered to port 5 in parellel to the normal import to port 4 too

The way essentially some older RTS and dual meter configurations - like mine - did - so can say bill off peak heating at one rate - whilst billing the rest of the house at another - regardless of peak or off peak hours / restricted circuit active.

Whch was the way my RTS Heatwise was billed - and that my E10 metering majorly changed (so peak and off peak alike applies to whole house - like standard modern e7 installs)

Their naming conventions - even for the 1415 and 1416 - in the 2019 manual don't even match their guide immediately above - which referes to digit four as the numer of relays - they have 2 / 3 - the later with the 2A aux each.

Am I going mad - or isnt it listed in the approved meters list here - tried looking for Aclara and SGM etc.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schedule-4-uk-nationally-approved-electricity-meters

Phones4Chris

@Scot_39 we are all going mad, they aren't on that list as I mentioned in my previous post.
I mentioned the difference between the 1422-B and the 1416-B in my reply here

Rosie1001

Mine is getting installed on Wednesday ..so which one do I need installed 

can I refuse if they try and put in a older version ?

QrizB

Rosie1001 said:

Mine is getting installed on Wednesday ..so which one do I need installed 

As long as they turn up with a smart meter suitable for switching storage heaters, it doesn't matter what model it is.

Rosie1001 said:

can I refuse if they try and put in a older version ?

No, not really. And I don't know why you'd want to.

Scot_39

Good luck for Wed.

Hope they turn up this time and if not make sure you get the compensation for the disruption..

Rosie1001

Scot_39 said:

Good luck for Wed.

Hope they turn up this time and if not make sure you get the compensation for the disruption..

I’ve had a email with a confirmation so fingers crossed …

im very nervous snd hope it all goes well and works as it should 

If we lose the afternoon boost , I’ll not be happy , my husband is 71 this year and has health issues ..so we need to keep our home warm 

Scrounger

Rosie1001 said:

I am in a group for complex Metering , and a lot of people are losing their afternoon boost when they are changing 

@Rosie1001, if you do lose your afternoon boost you could always switch to Octopus 'Snug' tariff which gives  a 1-hour boost in the afternoon (and may actually work out cheaper for you than E7/E10).

Also collect £50 if you get a referral for the switch.


Scrounger

Rosie1001

Scrounger said:

Rosie1001 said:

I am in a group for complex Metering , and a lot of people are losing their afternoon boost when they are changing 

@Rosie1001, if you do lose your afternoon boost you could always switch to Octopus 'Snug' tariff which gives  a 1-hour boost in the afternoon (and may actually work out cheaper for you than E7/E10).

Also collect £50 if you get a referral for the switch.


Scrounger

That’s the plan if this doesn’t work out for me ..thank you