Have we ever been in a worse car buying era I don't know where to turn next.

born_again

henry24 said:

So how many extra lampposts will be needed for every car 

They can add extra standalone charge points between lampposts if required.

https://connectedkerb.com/

henry24

If that happens which I doubt you'd need 1 for each house without off street parking so who pays 

Hoenir

booneruk said:

I always find it amusing that not everyone sees the massive sense in weaning ourselves off fossil fuels (a finite resource) and onto the complete utilisation of electricity (where possible) that will eventually be almost completely met by renewable sources. I mean, what's not to like about that? 

Not a question of liking. It's coming up with viable solutions to the complex problems and challenges that lie ahead. 

Mildly_Miffed

Hoenir said:

booneruk said:

I always find it amusing that not everyone sees the massive sense in weaning ourselves off fossil fuels (a finite resource) and onto the complete utilisation of electricity (where possible) that will eventually be almost completely met by renewable sources. I mean, what's not to like about that? 

Not a question of liking. It's coming up with viable solutions to the complex problems and challenges that lie ahead. 

The main issue is those who refuse to acknowledge that the change is required, because it does not suit their political preconceptions, or who exaggerate the challenges in order to try to paint the change as unfeasible.

Minor lifestyle adjustments may be required. We can do this without too much hardship.

Think about the lifestyle changes in our lifetimes, and in those of our parents and grandparents. One of my grandfathers was born in the 19th century and died in the 1990s - think about how much changed over his lifespan, from Victorian times to the cusp of the internet age. The move to more sustainable energy, and using less energy more sensibly, are trivial compared to that.

henry24

If we stop using any oil we'll all be back living like victorians 

WellKnownSid

henry24 said:

If that happens which I doubt you'd need 1 for each house without off street parking so who pays 

Average motorist drives 7400 miles = needs to charge their EV no more than once every ten days.  32% of households with a car don’t have a drive so 14 million cars.  Just 10% of the 7.2 million street lamps in the UK fitted with 2 sockets on each would be more than enough.

henry24

As has been commented on earlier you are thinking that all these households can always park outside their homes with a neighbour parked next to them where in real life you might not park outside your house for days 

WellKnownSid

henry24 said:

As has been commented on earlier you are thinking that all these households can always park outside their homes with a neighbour parked next to them where in real life you might not park outside your house for days 

Pot of yellow paint and a £400 million pound fine with automated disposal on the second offence if you’re not charging your EV there, job done.  No need to thank me.

henry24

I wouldn't thank anyone for a comment like that, I only thank sensible comments 

Car_54

henry24 said:

If we stop using any oil we'll all be back living like victorians 

The Victorians used lots of oil. mostly not from petroleum.