Parking Code evidence - your images of private parking signs are needed please!

Coupon-mad

UKCPM 24/7 cheap as chips CCTV and sign (filming every person & vehicle across public highway as usual) from this current thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6622689/parking-charge-whilst-delivering/p1

Covert surveillance like this is illegal.

Ahem: MHCLG excessive 24/7 filming without permission (not being overt) is ILLEGAL.

When will the MHCLG crack down on this new thing, which has sprung up like a rash in England this year.

In my view, this plus other new remote (lazy & cheap) surveillance wheezes - like bay monitoring which forces disabled people to jump through hoops to 'register' or scan their Blue Badge not just display it - are the main causes of the eye-watering 24% hike in DVLA data rinsing by this rogue industry.

NINETEEN MILLION PCNs per annum now under this Government's watch.

Sorry to say it but the 'options' from the MHCLG are weak, hopeless, pander to sharks and will allow them to choke the final breaths from high streets. Wakey wakey MHCLG...you are sleepwalking into finally killing off high street business, retail and local town economy.

P.S.
Of course, as ever (99.7% of the time) the sign is silent on quantifying the DRA fee. Course it is. That's an offence too but sadly, it looks like this government has missed that, in their haste to try to rush through a rotten Code.

Car1980

Coupon-mad said:

From this thread where one car park is sneakily split into two (wonder if the 2 PPCs are in cahoots, or connected?):

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6621963/over-looked-signage#latest

Two huge signs but an entrapment zone:

Look at the size of supposed t&cs font in the ridiculously wordy yellow sign!

Neither has the BPA roundel but these are also great examples to show the MHCLG that actual signage size doesn't matter if the font is <20 point!

Neither has anything about DRA fees of course because (to steal a statistic from the BPA) "99.7% of them don't".

The tariff prices are so prominent in the yellow sign, and the small print so small, I don't see how they can claim for anything other than £1.50 per hour because I certainly can't see any other agreement on there.

Coupon-mad

MET sign at McDonalds, from this current thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626167/met-pcn-at-mcdonalds-occupants-left-premises#latest

As ever - seen 99.7% of the time! - nothing at all about any added DRA/admin costs. Or if it's there, it's illegible & will never quantify the £sum.

Coupon-mad

APCOA sign from this thread re a Southern Railway car park:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6612576/apcoa-pn-issued-at-southeastern-rail-car-park-blue-badge-not-registered-at-blue-badge-portal/p1

All important terms are in minuscule font: illegible. Zoomed in below, shows the unexpected term that is now being imposed with no lawful justification on disabled users: suddenly it's not enough to just display a Blue badge. How would anyone know?



Nothing about added debt fees (course not).

Coupon-mad

Euro Parking Services sign from this thread (location redacted by OP, as this is home:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6576810/multiple-pcn-s/p1



Unreadable small print doesn't cut it.

No deterrent value (or contractual agreement argument) to save the added extortion because 99.7% of signs do not quantify it.

EDIT : Funnily enough, and highly unusually, this small print DOES seem to mention £160 - I just zoomed in - but not adequately or prominently enough to warn or inform a driver of an added DRF. Nobody would or could be expected to see that grey on black tiny print in an outdoor car park, eight feet up!

Fruitcake

Small retail park on the main road between the M5 and Weston-super-Mare, Somerset serving a large Boots superstore, Matalan, charity shops, fast food outlets, pre-school nursery, and residential flats.

In contrast, the much larger Morrisons car park next door is completely unsullied by unregulated private parking company signs.

Coupon-mad

Parking Group Ltd from this current thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6618013/dcb-legal-letter-of-claim/p1

Lots of visual clutter.

£100 is quite big but the t&cs above it are not, and there's no chance of a driver learning about or agreeing to more than £100.

The DRF isn't quantified and the vague words are in grey on black, looks like 12 point font. So, it's not a deterrent or part of the contract.

Coupon-mad

GBP Management sign, from this thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81655178/#Comment_81655178

Apart from the fact there is no consideration for vehicles NOT displaying a permit, therefore no contract exists and no breach of contract...

... as ever - seen in 99.7% of signs and proved by this thread of evidence, the DRF is not specified.

The small print is vague and unreadable.

The extortion of a DRF is not saved by being arguably a 'deterrent against not paying', as the industry like to pretend when attempting pulling the wool over the MHCLG's eyes again.

Coupon-mad

Premier Park sign from this thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626330/premier-park-parking-charge-notice/p1

Nothing to specify any additional costs. Usual vague small print. £100 is the only PCN sum.

Coupon-mad

Excel sign from this thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629799/excel-parking-dcb-legal-witness-statement-advice-please/p1




Such a pile of brightly coloured wordy gobbledegook! Even the £100 is hard to spot and the t&cs look to be in 12 point font.

Nothing to specify the sum of any DRA fee add-on but interestingly:

I see the final line states that cancelling a correctly issued PCN (presumably after a landowner complaint) costs £10.

Not the £20 the industry is trying to get past the MHCLG then!