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  • Alnat1
    Alnat1 Posts: 4,140 Forumite
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    Do you think the negative prices will be 3.5p bigger (smaller?) too on Agile? You know what I mean…

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  • RavingMad
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    Nice to see rates back to normal tomorrow

  • Netexporter
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    A nice dive at the end of the day. Could there be some negative overnight prices to follow?

  • Telegraph_Sam
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    Why should I be seeing Agile price drops in a situation of fuel shortages (threats of)? Agile needs to take evening class refreshers in basic economics

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  • Netexporter
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    Because it is tied to the wholesale price, which is low when there is a lot of renewables in the system. The price we pay ensures the supplier gets a profitable margin, so everybody wins (well the supplier loses when the wholesale price exceeds the £1/kWh retail cap but I'm sure they cover for those occasions from the normal pricing).

  • NedS
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    edited 24 March at 12:24AM

    It's because of the way electricity markets work in the UK. The wholesale price is set by the most expensive supplier of energy, normally gas.

    If demand can be met from non-fossil fuel sources such as renewables and nuclear, then gas fired power stations are not required and are therefore irrelevant - it does not matter how much gas costs in those 30min periods. This explains why you may currently see very high peaks during the 30min periods where gas-fired power stations are required to meet demand and very low prices where they are not, all within the same day.

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  • Telegraph_Sam
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    "The New Economics". If oil & gas come back on stream expect the Agile price to rise 😫

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    There are also unknown unknowns - the one's we don't know we don't know
  • EssexHebridean
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    Hopefully predict is on the right track with overnight/tomorrow morning prices…!

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  • laidbackgjr
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    2hrs worth of negative prices, plus plenty of cheap, this is why agile is worth sticking with.

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