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  • Magnitio
    Magnitio Posts: 1,205 Forumite
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    QrizB said:
    Tomorrow's national average pricing graph from Energy Stats is quite something:
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    And yet no free electricity from Octopus.
    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • GingerTim
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    Magnitio said:
    QrizB said:
    Tomorrow's national average pricing graph from Energy Stats is quite something:
    Follow them on Mastodon here:

    And yet no free electricity from Octopus.
    Negative pricing on Agile from midnight until 16.00 tomorrow.
  • Magnitio
    Magnitio Posts: 1,205 Forumite
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    GingerTim said:
    Magnitio said:
    QrizB said:
    Tomorrow's national average pricing graph from Energy Stats is quite something:
    Follow them on Mastodon here:

    And yet no free electricity from Octopus.
    Negative pricing on Agile from midnight until 16.00 tomorrow.

    Sorry, I was referring to Octopus customers who are not on Agile, but are part of the Octoplus scheme which promised free electricity when there is surplus on the grid.
    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • GingerTim
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    Magnitio said:
    GingerTim said:
    Magnitio said:
    QrizB said:
    Tomorrow's national average pricing graph from Energy Stats is quite something:
    Follow them on Mastodon here:

    And yet no free electricity from Octopus.
    Negative pricing on Agile from midnight until 16.00 tomorrow.

    Sorry, I was referring to Octopus customers who are not on Agile, but are part of the Octoplus scheme which promised free electricity when there is surplus on the grid.
    Ah, gotcha. Hopefully an email comes through in due course!
  • MikeyPGT
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    Bendo said:
    Octopus Watch app is predicting some great plunges overnight and into tomorrow. 
    I wonder if I can burn enough electricity to cancel out the still annoyingly high standing charge?
    Debt Free Wannabe by 1 December 2027

    Satisfied customer of Octopus Agile - past savings on average 33% of standard tarrif

    Deep seated hatred of Scottish Power and all who sail in her - would love to see Ofgem grow a pair and actually do something about it.
  • Bendo
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    Going to have to change my Home Assistant automation to let it do negative values. Currently it only goes down to 0 to boost the immersions but no point having it come on at those extortionate rates tomorrow.
  • masonic
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    edited 24 May at 6:06PM
    MikeyPGT said:
    Bendo said:
    Octopus Watch app is predicting some great plunges overnight and into tomorrow. 
    I wonder if I can burn enough electricity to cancel out the still annoyingly high standing charge?
    With slots at -5 to -8p it should be no trouble for tomorrow. You could cover the difference for a week without too much trouble. Plus benefit from being paid for the energy you'd normally use.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    Either I was misreading the Agile predict graph or it was wildly out a few days ago, but either way, BRILLIANT!
  • NedS
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    edited 24 May at 6:37PM
    masonic said:
    MikeyPGT said:
    Bendo said:
    Octopus Watch app is predicting some great plunges overnight and into tomorrow. 
    I wonder if I can burn enough electricity to cancel out the still annoyingly high standing charge?
    With slots at -5 to -8p it should be no trouble for tomorrow. You could cover the difference for a week without too much trouble. Plus benefit from being paid for the energy you'd normally use.
    We will have to use up to 3kW of solar first, and lose the 45p of export we would otherwise get before we start making money. I'd seen someone previously mention they'd switched off their inverter on such days which may earn an extra 15p per hour based on not having to use 3kW first at a potential -5p/kWh

    I'm not sure how beneficial this really is for the grid. If you've got one property like ours trying to pull 20kW all day and my non-Agile neighbours trying to export 3kW of solar all day, all it really does is create a massive phase imbalance? It may help address the overall supply and demand issue at the expense of creating other localised issues due to abnormal behaviours.
  • QrizB
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    NedS said:
    I'm not sure how beneficial this really is for the grid. If you've got one property like ours trying to pull 20kW all day and my non-Agile neighbours trying to export 3kW of solar all day, all it really does is create a massive phase imbalance?
    Local phase imbalances are pretty common. For example my old house was probably the only one on the street with storage heaters (everyone else had gas) so in the middle of the night I'd be pulling 10kW when no-one else was using more than a couple hundred watts.
    You'll be cancelling out the rise in grid voltage from any PV on your phase.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
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