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  • I'm curious to know if I'll qualify for the broader group, based on the first part looks as though we will, but cannot work out the second, think probably not with a mid 50's semi at 88 square metres
    Depends if the VOA puts you at a larger size than 88m², otherwise no.

    I'm curious to know if I'll qualify for the broader group, based on the first part looks as though we will, but cannot work out the second, think probably not with a mid 50's semi at 88 square metres
    Depends if the VOA puts you at a larger size than 88m², otherwise no.

    Where is this table? As I can’t see this on page 15  this one makes a lot more sense 
  • I'm curious to know if I'll qualify for the broader group, based on the first part looks as though we will, but cannot work out the second, think probably not with a mid 50's semi at 88 square metres
    Depends if the VOA puts you at a larger size than 88m², otherwise no.

    I'm curious to know if I'll qualify for the broader group, based on the first part looks as though we will, but cannot work out the second, think probably not with a mid 50's semi at 88 square metres
    Depends if the VOA puts you at a larger size than 88m², otherwise no.

    Where is this table? As I can’t see this on page 15  this one makes a lot more sense 
    It's in the excel document, scroll down on the government page to below the eligibility statement.


    The 'table' on page 15 of the eligibility statement isn't a table at all, it just shows the bands they use for each characteristic.
  • I found it after I posted thanks 😊 
  • michaels
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    michaels said:
    michaels said:
    Gov site says notifications will start going out from the 14th....

    Can't find anywhere that details the 'high energy need' calc
    I haven't looked for a little while but in the details it was based on property age/type/size, and the threshold wasn't set as an absolute, it was a percentile so they didn't know at all where it would actually be set until they'd run the calculation.

    Ooh, no, actually here are some results
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/warm-home-discount-eligibility-statement-england-and-wales
    See the property characteristics combinations document

    The eligibility statement p.15 shows the categories they use.

    (And full rationale/detail behind it all if anyone's curious https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/warm-home-discount-better-targeted-support-from-2022 )
    Really helpful.  Now I just need to know how many m2 the VOA think my house is - anyone know if this info is available?
    Look at EPC reports which can be found easily online 
    The default is to use the VOA with the EPC only used on appeal.  When we bought, we were about 80m2, since extending we are about 150m2 and have an EPC to support that from our solar install so looks like I will have to appeal as the cut off is 83m2 for our house type.

    Appeal line opens on Monday so perhaps I will try and call then before the rush....
    I think....
  • KxMx
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    edited 11 November 2022 at 11:58PM
    Well it looks like the only way a flat of my size (using a neighbours EPC as nothing available for mine) would qualify is if it was built pre 1919... Even without knowing the VOA details I'm pretty confident that's correct. 
    Honestly it gave me a good laugh tonight! 
  • michaels said:
    michaels said:
    michaels said:
    Gov site says notifications will start going out from the 14th....

    Can't find anywhere that details the 'high energy need' calc
    I haven't looked for a little while but in the details it was based on property age/type/size, and the threshold wasn't set as an absolute, it was a percentile so they didn't know at all where it would actually be set until they'd run the calculation.

    Ooh, no, actually here are some results
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/warm-home-discount-eligibility-statement-england-and-wales
    See the property characteristics combinations document

    The eligibility statement p.15 shows the categories they use.

    (And full rationale/detail behind it all if anyone's curious https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/warm-home-discount-better-targeted-support-from-2022 )
    Really helpful.  Now I just need to know how many m2 the VOA think my house is - anyone know if this info is available?
    Look at EPC reports which can be found easily online 
    The default is to use the VOA with the EPC only used on appeal.  When we bought, we were about 80m2, since extending we are about 150m2 and have an EPC to support that from our solar install so looks like I will have to appeal as the cut off is 83m2 for our house type.

    Appeal line opens on Monday so perhaps I will try and call then before the rush....
    What the appeal line? 
  • Auti
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    edited 12 November 2022 at 8:49AM
    Hello, does anyone know a way to view the exel spreadsheet on an ipad as it is not comparable with my ipad. My house is Victorian (1884), mid terrace L shaped, 3/4 bedrooms (one you walk through to get to bathroom), separate toilet - bathroom and toilet upstairs and very high ceilings. From front to back door it is approx 55 feet. At the moment bathroom (north facing) is 13 degrees and living room (south facing) 15 degrees and that is normal at the moment. Qualify on low income but no idea on house. Thank you.


    edit: I have now measured my house and calculated the sq m. Which comes to 106.728 sq m (I measured floor area and did not account for internal walls) 
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  • NedS
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    Auti said:
    Hello, does anyone know a way to view the exel spreadsheet on an ipad as it is not comparable with my ipad. My house is Victorian (1884), mid terrace L shaped, 3/4 bedrooms (one you walk through to get to bathroom), separate toilet - bathroom and toilet upstairs and very high ceilings. From front to back door it is approx 55 feet. At the moment bathroom (north facing) is 13 degrees and living room (south facing) 15 degrees and that is normal at the moment. Qualify on low income but no idea on house. Thank you.


    edit: I have now measured my house and calculated the sq m. Which comes to 106.728 sq m (I measured floor area and did not account for internal walls) 
    Is the floor space based on sq m of the footprint of the property, or would you double that for a house vs bungalow (2 stories vs single story)??

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  • NedS said:
    Auti said:
    Hello, does anyone know a way to view the exel spreadsheet on an ipad as it is not comparable with my ipad. My house is Victorian (1884), mid terrace L shaped, 3/4 bedrooms (one you walk through to get to bathroom), separate toilet - bathroom and toilet upstairs and very high ceilings. From front to back door it is approx 55 feet. At the moment bathroom (north facing) is 13 degrees and living room (south facing) 15 degrees and that is normal at the moment. Qualify on low income but no idea on house. Thank you.


    edit: I have now measured my house and calculated the sq m. Which comes to 106.728 sq m (I measured floor area and did not account for internal walls) 
    Is the floor space based on sq m of the footprint of the property, or would you double that for a house vs bungalow (2 stories vs single story)??

    Good question.  I think based on our house's EPC measurement it's probably footprint.  Bungalows are their own separate property type.

    @Auti here it is (obviously no guarantee, depends on whether the VOA measurement agrees with you)

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