Employer forcing into office

SpiderLegs

justworriedabit said:

SingleSue said:

I have no option but to go into work (well once we are allowed to reopen) as our work cannot be done from home. I was a shielder, returned last July (2 weeks after we were allowed to open and 2 weeks before shielding guidelines were paused) and have no qualms about returning again next month. We're all counting down the days until we are allowed back.

Was I anxious last July? Oh goodness yes but I knew they had done everything possible to ensure our safety and we had all had to undergo Covid safe training before returning. It was one of the most nerve wracking things I have done walking in on my first morning but by the end of the shift, it felt like I had never been away...well apart from all the extra cleaning and sanitising of things!

Good for you.

However, you have completely missed the OP's point yet again. It is not only the OP that feels vulnerable but they have others that are vulnerable living with them, or did you chose to ignore that? Very importantly, as you said, you went back to work but the OP is being called back for a few hours, why put the OP and their loved ones at risk for a few hours. Please read the OP's posts again and then compare your experiences with theirs but not forgetting they are in a totally different situation to you.

The poster you quoted simply recounted their personal experience. The only person comparing and drawing inference back to the OP’s position is yourself.

gettingtheresometime

justworriedabit said:

SingleSue said:

I have no option but to go into work (well once we are allowed to reopen) as our work cannot be done from home. I was a shielder, returned last July (2 weeks after we were allowed to open and 2 weeks before shielding guidelines were paused) and have no qualms about returning again next month. We're all counting down the days until we are allowed back.

Was I anxious last July? Oh goodness yes but I knew they had done everything possible to ensure our safety and we had all had to undergo Covid safe training before returning. It was one of the most nerve wracking things I have done walking in on my first morning but by the end of the shift, it felt like I had never been away...well apart from all the extra cleaning and sanitising of things!

Good for you.

However, you have completely missed the OP's point yet again. It is not only the OP that feels vulnerable but they have others that are vulnerable living with them, or did you chose to ignore that? Very importantly, as you said, you went back to work but the OP is being called back for a few hours, why put the OP and their loved ones at risk for a few hours. Please read the OP's posts again and then compare your experiences with theirs but not forgetting they are in a totally different situation to you.

There are/were a lot of posters who worked on the front line during this whole crisis.

They documented how they dealt with keeping their loved ones as safe as possible whilst keeping us safe.

GIven that we're in a far far better situation now than we were in then, the way that they coped would seem appropriate for the OP to follow, if the OP still feels vulnerable don't you think?

JamoLew

I’m not 100% convinced that “vulnerable” is a thing now (in the context of CV)

Shielding is over 

Over 50s and CeV have had at least one vaccination (many have had 2)

All my colleagues that were shielding are now back In work at the hospital.

We haven’t been made aware of the type of vulnerability and it may be totally unrelated to Covid etc

booneruk

justworriedabit said:

SingleSue said:

I have no option but to go into work (well once we are allowed to reopen) as our work cannot be done from home. I was a shielder, returned last July (2 weeks after we were allowed to open and 2 weeks before shielding guidelines were paused) and have no qualms about returning again next month. We're all counting down the days until we are allowed back.

Was I anxious last July? Oh goodness yes but I knew they had done everything possible to ensure our safety and we had all had to undergo Covid safe training before returning. It was one of the most nerve wracking things I have done walking in on my first morning but by the end of the shift, it felt like I had never been away...well apart from all the extra cleaning and sanitising of things!

Good for you.

However, you have completely missed the OP's point yet again. It is not only the OP that feels vulnerable but they have others that are vulnerable living with them, or did you chose to ignore that? Very importantly, as you said, you went back to work but the OP is being called back for a few hours, why put the OP and their loved ones at risk for a few hours. Please read the OP's posts again and then compare your experiences with theirs but not forgetting they are in a totally different situation to you.

Everyone vulnerable should be having their 2nd doses any time soon

poppy12345

OP hasn't even been online since 23rd April.....

elsien

And the debate has done several full circles and ended up back where it started, courtesy of some posters appearing not to be taking account of others points of view, how situations can be managed to mitigate the risks, and restating points which have been covered in depth from varying points of view already.

I do hope the OP has been able to take away points that they may find useful, and have read the replies even if they've not logged back on. 

unforeseen

CEV & CV classifications are now paused. To all intents and purposes they no longer exist

There are no different instructions for people who where CV or CEV when compared to the general populace. 

JCS1

justworriedabit said:

SingleSue said:

I have no option but to go into work (well once we are allowed to reopen) as our work cannot be done from home. I was a shielder, returned last July (2 weeks after we were allowed to open and 2 weeks before shielding guidelines were paused) and have no qualms about returning again next month. We're all counting down the days until we are allowed back.

Was I anxious last July? Oh goodness yes but I knew they had done everything possible to ensure our safety and we had all had to undergo Covid safe training before returning. It was one of the most nerve wracking things I have done walking in on my first morning but by the end of the shift, it felt like I had never been away...well apart from all the extra cleaning and sanitising of things!

Good for you.

However, you have completely missed the OP's point yet again. It is not only the OP that feels vulnerable but they have others that are vulnerable living with them, or did you chose to ignore that? Very importantly, as you said, you went back to work but the OP is being called back for a few hours, why put the OP and their loved ones at risk for a few hours. Please read the OP's posts again and then compare your experiences with theirs but not forgetting they are in a totally different situation to you.

I have also been in the office, and live with 2 people who also had the shield letter (as did myself).  So I am in a similar experience to the OP and been in the office full time for several months now.

I also have depression and anxiety and see a consultant psychiatrist.  

gplinge

wannabe_a_saver said:

Nebulous2 said:

 I had assumed everyone was doing the same, but it may be that we are fortunate in having the necessary equipment on site. It wouldn't be so easy in community settings or finding someone in need of resuscitation in the street. 

In that situation you would do compression only CPR.  To be honest, that's been the advice for non-health professionals for some time anyway.  Good quality compressions and fast access to an AED is the best chance of saving a life. 

BVM usage was dropped on my course as it is considered an "AGP" (aerosol generating procedure) which requires the appropriate level of PPE as, if done properly, you will generate some aerosol from the lungs, which if the patient has covid, will spread the disease (This is why when doing compression only CPR in the recommended manner, you are recommended to cover the patient mouth/nose with a towel or other fabric to act like a mask and reduce any aerosol from being released

68ComebackSpecial

elsien said:

And the debate has done several full circles and ended up back where it started, courtesy of some posters appearing not to be taking account of others points of view, how situations can be managed to mitigate the risks, and restating points which have been covered in depth from varying points of view already.

I do hope the OP has been able to take away points that they may find useful, and have read the replies even if they've not logged back on. 

Well, @justworriedabit won't be back, at least using that name, to continue with her ranting indignation at others having the temerity to hold a view at variance with her own as she has been banned again.