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  • Mstty
    Mstty Posts: 4,209 Forumite
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    k_man said:
    Yes, 20kWh is quite high (FYI my overestimated Tracker is £3.55)

    Time for some digging for you.
    Maybe time for a why is my usage so high thread
    Thankfully the recent high usage threads have given me a few leads already, and the calculations of even small but constant power draws (e.g. the plug-in air fresheners - we don't have them but seeing that kind of small amount added up is eye-opening!) has inspired me to check everything we possibly can.  There are four applicances we won't be able to use the energy monitor - either hardwired in, or plugs completely inaccessible - but it'll be a simpler exercise than experimenting with the heat pump will be.

    £3.55 sounds almost like fantasy!  I recently house-sat for someone whose IHD was on the monetary usage screen and if I hadn't seen for myself such low numbers in comparison with our own bills, I'm not sure I'd have believed it.  Being all-electric does factor in, but right now it should only be the hot water that differs and yeah, wow.
    All electric, ASHP 4/5 Bed, 2 adults working from home full time. This include using the tumble dryer 5 times a week, 6 washing loads, dishwasher on every night, cooking every day(but as cheaply as possible) and the hot water. No heat on at all. We have also been in strangely all week this week. We pay 51.61p per day SC and 29.24p kWh on our fix deal.

    Be interesting what you are running.





  • Planeteer
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    edited 21 August 2022 at 11:15PM
    SAC2334 said:
    milo_2020 said:

    I wonder who will be footing the bill with all the jumped meters?
    As a meter reader for 20 years I can say that  all the "jumped meters " will quadruple this year  and so will the subbed and reversed gas meters . 
    Sorry, what is a jumped meter, or the latter two?

    Also, does the tracker have a SC?
  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,353 Forumite
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    Planeteer said:
    Also, does the tracker have a SC?
    Tracker does have a standing charge; it matches ours from the SVT so I assume that's the case for all the regions a well.
  • merchcon55
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    I'm only an occasional observer of the tracker rates - but this mornings electricity rate was a real eye opener.

    In area G (Northwest) 70.56p per KWH.

    Looking back from 13 August to 22 August, Gas has been relatively steady (high 14p to low 15p per KWH), yet electricity unit rates have gone up from 46.75p to 59.04p to 48.15p and today to 70.56p.

    Perhaps those here more knowledgeable can advise - why would gas rate be more or less steady, while electricity rate fluctuates ?
  • Magnitio
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    I'm only an occasional observer of the tracker rates - but this mornings electricity rate was a real eye opener.

    In area G (Northwest) 70.56p per KWH.

    Looking back from 13 August to 22 August, Gas has been relatively steady (high 14p to low 15p per KWH), yet electricity unit rates have gone up from 46.75p to 59.04p to 48.15p and today to 70.56p.

    Perhaps those here more knowledgeable can advise - why would gas rate be more or less steady, while electricity rate fluctuates ?

    Lack of sun and wind will increase electricity prices. Also the ability to import electricity from continent.
    Yesterday's generation below - blue is wind, yellow is solar. After 6PM there was very little of either, so gas increases as a percentage of overal generation and the price rose accordingly.



    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    Even higher tomorrow!  Day-ahead prices min 382.42, max 779.03, av 539.59
  • SJMALBA
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    edited 23 August 2022 at 1:05AM
    I think that today is the first time that both July 2022 v1 caps have been hit?


    Actual electricity unit rate, for me, would be 76.21p/kWh.
  • barker77
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    Can I check - is the cap still 55p elec and 16 gas as the mention of 70.56p above confused me! 
  • SJMALBA
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    barker77 said:
    Can I check - is the cap still 55p elec and 16 gas as the mention of 70.56p above confused me! 
    Yes, July 2022 v1 caps are 55p/kWh and 16p/kWh - references to higher prices are what the actual unit rates would be were it not for the caps.
  • Chrysalis
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    edited 23 August 2022 at 11:47AM
    Dolor said:
    Chrysalis said:
    Chrysalis said:
    Dolor said:
    They haven’t changed my Version 1 capped price.
    Is v1 for life or something? surely the tariff would have expired by now?
    Customers signed up to v1 up until approx 8th April 2022 for 12 month fixed term ......
    Thanks, thats interesting, so they went from v1 to v2 to v3 and now a new v1 all in the space of a few months.
    Actually, they didn’t. They went from version 3 to July 22 v1. The implication being that they were worried about rising prices and they thought that may have needed to release a July 22 v2 tariff.
    Isnt April 2022 to July 22 a few months?

    V1 available until April 2022
    Then a few months v2 came and expired, v3 came and expired..

    Are you saying bristolleedsfan reply was wrong?

    So V1 was available as recently as April 2022.  V1 -> V2 -> V3 -> July 22 V1 in a 3 month period.

    Since people misinterpret so easily on here, by expired I mean availability to sign up to it.
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