Staying local

justworriedabit

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .

” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”

Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local

Would you care to direct me and others to the information you claim to have been "published" that defines "local"?
Birmingham, Manchester, London etc are big cites and i may be wrong buy it is more than 17 miles one to the other end.
We too want to travel a few miles to the beach, so it would help.


TIA

See the reply/quote by elsien or just use Google like I did

I can't see or find the legal definition of it. As you already know, kindly provide the link that clearly states what "local" is. It was you that tried to define the meaning but as I said, I can't see it anywhere.
TIA

No thanks

I havent tried at all to define it thanks - please read my post properly

If you need clarification or an exact definition - then YOU are part of the problem

You did difine the definition of local and I quote.
"JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .

” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”

Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local"

Then you tried to tell me to "Google it. "I told you I could not find it.
So where is the "published" evidence, please?
Should you not substantiate you claim, then I will will know that there is no such evidence.
Many thanks in advance.

JamoLew said:

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .

” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”

Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local

Would you care to direct me and others to the information you claim to have been "published" that defines "local"?
Birmingham, Manchester, London etc are big cites and i may be wrong buy it is more than 17 miles one to the other end.
We too want to travel a few miles to the beach, so it would help.


TIA

See the reply/quote by elsien or just use Google like I did

I can't see or find the legal definition of it. As you already know, kindly provide the link that clearly states what "local" is. It was you that tried to define the meaning but as I said, I can't see it anywhere.
TIA

No thanks

I havent tried at all to define it thanks - please read my post properly

If you need clarification or an exact definition - then YOU are part of the problem

You did difine the definition of local and I quote.
"JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .

” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”

Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local"

Then you tried to tell me to "Google it. "I told you I could not find it.
So where is the "published" evidence, please?
Should you not substantiate you claim, then I will will know that there is no such evidence.
Many thanks in advance.

I defined nothing

I stated that definitions had been published

I DID NOT say whether they were accurate and/or legal

I DID NOT state whether i agree/disagree with it

Google "lockdown, what is local"

Definition of Local:

local

1. 1.

   relating or restricted to a particular area or one's neighbourhood.

   
   
   How people wish to interpret that is open to "debate"
   
   if you wish to not believe anything anyone says because they can't/don't supply evidence that satisfies you, that's your prerogative - knock yourself out on these:

Good evening
As you responded but failed to produce the evidence as per your post and I re-quote your assertion.
""JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published ."
You was not talking about tom down the road or the sun, the Guardian etc etc but the government as ONLY they "publish" the rule of the law and that my dear friend is a fact.
I won't ask you again unless you post the link to your assertion as per the highlighted quoted from you.
You clearly was not talking re the newspapers.
If there is no Gov link again, we will all know why.
As I said before as you told me to search Google, I did but nothing there form the Gov site clearly defining 'local'
Have a great evening.

onashoestring

This is what I found on the gov.uk website:

Travel

You must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse (for example, for work or education purposes).

If you need to travel you should stay local. This means you should avoid travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live. 

Here is the link: 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

Jeremy535897

Mickey666 said:

epm-84 said:

silvercar said:

"stay local where possible" suggests it is guidance not law.

Currently you are only allowed to leave the home for a few permitted reasons by law, so you need to be able to justify why you are where you are at any time.  Obviously if you are at your nearest supermarket buying food or at your nearest park exercising then there's no debate, you are out for a valid reason.  However, if you're driving 10 miles to ASDA when Tesco is 1 mile away you need a good reason for doing so for it to be legal e.g. ASDA being on your way to work, or on the way to an elderly relative in your support bubble and you're buying food for them as well.

But who decides what is a 'good reason'? A good reason for some people would be that ASDA is cheaper or sells something that Tesco doesn't.  After all, it's not illegal to choose to shop in Asda is it?  Or is it, if Tesco is nearer?

In England, you cannot leave your house unless you have a "reasonable excuse". Leaving your house to buy goods from shops and businesses allowed to remain open is a "reasonable excuse". If acquiring a compact tractor is "reasonably necessary", and can obtain it from a business that is allowed to open, leaving your home to acquire it is a reasonable excuse. The guidance says you should stay local wherever possible, but if what you want is not available locally, then you can travel as far as is necessary. The better option would be to order it and have it delivered, but it would be understandable if you wanted to try it out before buying, given the expense involved. Personally I would wait a week to do so, to get into the more lenient regime from 29 March.

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onashoestring said:

This is what I found on the gov.uk website:

Travel

You must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse (for example, for work or education purposes).

If you need to travel you should stay local. This means you should avoid travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live. 

Here is the link: 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

That seems to imply that if your place of work is not local then you should not go there.

silvercar

onashoestring said:

This is what I found on the gov.uk website:

Travel

You must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse (for example, for work or education purposes).

If you need to travel you should stay local. This means you should avoid travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live. 

Here is the link: 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

First of all you are quoting guidance not law, as can be seen by the words of your link.
secondly, from 8 March you are legally allowed to meet one other person in a public place, so effectively stay local has gone.
thirdly, from 29 March, ‘stay at home’ no longer applies.

justworriedabit

[DELETED USER] said:

onashoestring said:

This is what I found on the gov.uk website:

Travel

You must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse (for example, for work or education purposes).

If you need to travel you should stay local. This means you should avoid travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live. 

Here is the link: 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

That seems to imply that if your place of work is not local then you should not go there.

Exactly.
I asked the other poster to substantiate his/her comments ("published") as this would help me and millions of other law abiding citizens not to unwittingly breach the rules. The poster has yet to post a link to a Gov site defining what is mean by 'local.'
I've looked hard and yet to find a Gov definition  that clearly states what is 'local.'

Sea_Shell

Must/Must not = Law
Should/ Should not = guidelines, and therefore open to interpretation and use of "common" sense.

So it's basically up to the individual to interpret the definition of local, to them, in the hope/expectation that it will be accepted as reasonable, if questioned.    It is not a you MUST stay local, it's you SHOULD.

(well that's how I understand it anyway)

shinytop

I've got a simple four word rule for staying local that 95% of people should undestand. It is  "Don't take the pi$$"
The other 5% need everything spelled out in minute detail and it's probably not worth the effort in the scale of things.

Sea_Shell

shinytop said:

I've got a simple four word rule for staying local that 95% of people should undestand. It is  "Don't take the pi$$"
The other 5% need everything spelled out in minute detail and it's probably not worth the effort in the scale of things.

Or as JVT said "Don't rip the pants out of it!"

(although he may have been talking about another part of the easing of lockdown? - but the sentiment remains the same)

JamoLew

justworriedabit said:

[DELETED USER] said:

onashoestring said:

This is what I found on the gov.uk website:

Travel

You must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse (for example, for work or education purposes).

If you need to travel you should stay local. This means you should avoid travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live. 

Here is the link: 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

That seems to imply that if your place of work is not local then you should not go there.

Exactly.
I asked the other poster to substantiate his/her comments ("published") as this would help me and millions of other law abiding citizens not to unwittingly breach the rules. The poster has yet to post a link to a Gov site defining what is mean by 'local.'
I've looked hard and yet to find a Gov definition  that clearly states what is 'local.'

Because there is no government definition as already explained by other posters

You didn't ask for a government definition and nor did i suggest there was one - I merely stated that some definitions had been published

You've chosen how to interpret my comments to in a false manner - rather than asking for clarification on the type of publication, you went on a passive aggressive attack trying to tell me and others what I meant/did say rather than what I actually said

If you are going to start nit picking at everyones comments/input, you will find that people stop engaging with you 

"Unsubstantiated comments will be reported." do i report your post according to your "rules" on your sig now ?

I won't be responding to you further and have ignored you as I believe you are deliberately trying to provoke people in order to report them