Staying local

epm-84

Torry_Quine said:

It's always meant within your own council boundary where I am.

If you're in England that stopped applying at the end of December last year, when local was redefined as the town, village or part of the city where you live unless you have a good reason to travel further, when prior to that for those in tier 3/4 areas it meant your local council area.

epm-84

Torry_Quine said:

silvercar said:

Here it is, for anyone that’s wants to read the original, rather than people’s interpretation:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/364/made

For England. 

The original post talks about easing on 29th March.  As Scotland and Wales have different roadmaps with different dates, it's obvious that any discussion about Scotland or Wales isn't relevant.

epm-84

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .

” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”

Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local

Would you care to direct me and others to the information you claim to have been "published" that defines "local"?
Birmingham, Manchester, London etc are big cites and i may be wrong buy it is more than 17 miles one to the other end.
We too want to travel a few miles to the beach, so it would help.

Technically if you live in the city of Manchester then the BBC Studios or Manchester United's football ground are not in the city that you live in. The BBC Studios are in Salford, which is a city in it's own right, while Manchester United's ground is in Stretford in the borough of Trafford so isn't even in Manchester. (That's how the Man City fans can wind up the Man United fans.)

I've walked from Castlefield in central Manchester to Salford Quays via Trafford before, it's a long walk but it's not so long it couldn't be classed as unreasonably long for daily exercise.

It may be almost 17 miles from Altrincham to Bury (both in Greater Manchester) but Greater Manchester is a Metropolitan area consisting of 2 cities and many towns and villages.

epm-84

onashoestring said:

If holidays within the UK are allowed after 12 April ( that will only happen if the government is satisfied its four tests are being met)
then the stay local guidance would presumably end then too? 

My understanding is it will allow you to go to a self-contained property or caravan with your household or support bubble only, with household mixing not being allowed for another 5 weeks after that.  You won't even be able to sit inside in a pub or restaurant with your household or support bubble on that date.

JamoLew

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

justworriedabit said:

JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .

” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”

Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local

Would you care to direct me and others to the information you claim to have been "published" that defines "local"?
Birmingham, Manchester, London etc are big cites and i may be wrong buy it is more than 17 miles one to the other end.
We too want to travel a few miles to the beach, so it would help.


TIA

See the reply/quote by elsien or just use Google like I did

I can't see or find the legal definition of it. As you already know, kindly provide the link that clearly states what "local" is. It was you that tried to define the meaning but as I said, I can't see it anywhere.
TIA

No thanks

I havent tried at all to define it thanks - please read my post properly

If you need clarification or an exact definition - then YOU are part of the problem

silvercar

"stay local where possible" suggests it is guidance not law.

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epm-84 said:

Torry_Quine said:

It's always meant within your own council boundary where I am.

If you're in England that stopped applying at the end of December last year, when local was redefined as the town, village or part of the city where you live unless you have a good reason to travel further, when prior to that for those in tier 3/4 areas it meant your local council area.

I think we can safely say that with a user name like @Torry_Quine the poster is not in England. 

silvercar

Since March 8, it has been allowable to meet one other person outdoors, the coffee on a bench rule, so the requirement to stay local was relaxed at that point. 

From 29 March, the stay at home law relaxes completely, so you can go wherever you want in England, the restraint is that hotels, b&b etc are closed and you can’t go indoors with anyone not in your household or bubble, so there are practical reasons why you can’t stray far enough away from home that you won’t be able to return the same night.
(England only)

JamoLew

Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:

1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardless

silvercar

JamoLew said:

Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:

1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardless

I would add that there are people who follow the rules and guidance but have a desperate need for something that they need to find a way to do. It may not be so crucial that the government recognises it as a reason in official guidance/ law for fear of everyone taking advantage, but it exists. That is why people are exploring the limit of the rules at this point in time, when we have already been in lockdown for months. eg elderly parents that haven't seen anyone for months, that could really benefit from an outdoor visit from one of their children but no one lives local. So the very much adult offspring, who has been obeying every rule, wants to explore the legality of a visit.