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JamoLew said:Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:
1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardless
Not to mention that some of the people in (1) feel that anyone who falls into (2) should be publicly flogged. As for (3), no punishment is harsh enough!!How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.60% of current retirement "pot" (as at end May 2025)5 -
silvercar said:JamoLew said:Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:
1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardless
As for your example of visiting elderly relatives - make a "risk assessment" - is it safe, is it sensible,is it putting anyone at risk and just dont take the Michael and do it every day
Keep within the law and "spirit" of the guidance (where it exists)0 -
JamoLew said:justworriedabit said:JamoLew said:justworriedabit said:JamoLew said:The definition of “Local” has been published .
” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”
Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local
Birmingham, Manchester, London etc are big cites and i may be wrong buy it is more than 17 miles one to the other end.
We too want to travel a few miles to the beach, so it would help.
TIA
TIA
I havent tried at all to define it thanks - please read my post properly
If you need clarification or an exact definition - then YOU are part of the problem
"JamoLew said:The definition of “Local” has been published .
” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”
Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local"
Then you tried to tell me to "Google it. "I told you I could not find it.
So where is the "published" evidence, please?
Should you not substantiate you claim, then I will will know that there is no such evidence.
Many thanks in advance.0 -
JamoLew said:Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:
1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardlessAlmost right, but I think people who want to find technicalities and loopholes are not the same as those who find no reason to justify anything.'Technicalities' may also inform following the spirit of the rules. For example, the current 7.2 cases per 100 000 in my area might be a significant factor in how I behave currently. It's probably the reason why 7 of us found ourselves chatting in someone's garden the other day for a few minutes. It wasn't anyone's intention to break rules and I only thought about it later on.The people I'm most worried about locally are those in 1) I haven't seen some nearby ones for months. Apparently, they creep out at night to put out their bins etc. There's a virtually brand new car on their drive, which I bet hasn't moved since lockdown began. Their mental health wasn't great before 2020, so God knows where it is now!
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Mickey666 said:Isn't it 'stay local where possible'?
Thus leaving home to go shopping for food is allowed, but driving past your local supermarket to buy food in a supermaret 100 miles away is clearly not allowed.
But what if you want to go shopping for something not available locally. I'm currently looking for a compact tractor and the nearest suitable looking one is about 60 miles away, so it's 'as local as possible'. Will I be OK if stopped by plod in my next door county?0 -
Davesnave said:JamoLew said:Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:
1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardlessAlmost right, but I think people who want to find technicalities and loopholes are not the same as those who find no reason to justify anything.'Technicalities' may also inform following the spirit of the rules. For example, the current 7.2 cases per 100 000 in my area might be a significant factor in how I behave currently. It's probably the reason why 7 of us found ourselves chatting in someone's garden the other day for a few minutes. It wasn't anyone's intention to break rules and I only thought about it later on.The people I'm most worried about locally are those in 1) I haven't seen some nearby ones for months. Apparently, they creep out at night to put out their bins etc. There's a virtually brand new car on their drive, which I bet hasn't moved since lockdown began. Their mental health wasn't great before 2020, so God knows where it is now!
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justworriedabit said:Davesnave said:JamoLew said:Let be honest - there are and have been 3 types of people during this:
1) One that follow every little rule,guidance and law to the letter
2) Those that generally follow the spirit of the rules,guidance and law
3) Those that try and find every little loophole/technicality/interpretation to justify doing what they want to do regardlessAlmost right, but I think people who want to find technicalities and loopholes are not the same as those who find no reason to justify anything.'Technicalities' may also inform following the spirit of the rules. For example, the current 7.2 cases per 100 000 in my area might be a significant factor in how I behave currently. It's probably the reason why 7 of us found ourselves chatting in someone's garden the other day for a few minutes. It wasn't anyone's intention to break rules and I only thought about it later on.The people I'm most worried about locally are those in 1) I haven't seen some nearby ones for months. Apparently, they creep out at night to put out their bins etc. There's a virtually brand new car on their drive, which I bet hasn't moved since lockdown began. Their mental health wasn't great before 2020, so God knows where it is now!
ThanksI understand that, but it's the huge variety in the places where people live which makes very tightly defined rules hard to apply.2 -
I've always thought common sense is useful. For instance my nearest shopping area is in a different county and council area. That area is approx 6 miles closer than the nearest shops in my council area and has a lower rate of infection than the other area.
Is anyone really going to argue that I should travel further to stay local?
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justworriedabit said:JamoLew said:justworriedabit said:JamoLew said:justworriedabit said:JamoLew said:The definition of “Local” has been published .
” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”
Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local
Birmingham, Manchester, London etc are big cites and i may be wrong buy it is more than 17 miles one to the other end.
We too want to travel a few miles to the beach, so it would help.
TIA
TIA
I havent tried at all to define it thanks - please read my post properly
If you need clarification or an exact definition - then YOU are part of the problem
"JamoLew said:The definition of “Local” has been published .
” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”
Currently 17miles is unlikely to be classed as local"
Then you tried to tell me to "Google it. "I told you I could not find it.
So where is the "published" evidence, please?
Should you not substantiate you claim, then I will will know that there is no such evidence.
Many thanks in advance.
I stated that definitions had been published
I DID NOT say whether they were accurate and/or legal
I DID NOT state whether i agree/disagree with it
Google "lockdown, what is local"Definition of Local:
local- 1.relating or restricted to a particular area or one's neighbourhood.
How people wish to interpret that is open to "debate"
if you wish to not believe anything anyone says because they can't/don't supply evidence that satisfies you, that's your prerogative - knock yourself out on these:
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silvercar said:"stay local where possible" suggests it is guidance not law.0
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