Staying local

epm-84

Lover_of_Lycra said:

epm-84 said:

Lover_of_Lycra said:

epm-84 said:

Torry_Quine said:

It's always meant within your own council boundary where I am.

If you're in England that stopped applying at the end of December last year, when local was redefined as the town, village or part of the city where you live unless you have a good reason to travel further, when prior to that for those in tier 3/4 areas it meant your local council area.

I think we can safely say that with a user name like @Torry_Quine the poster is not in England. 

But if @Torry_Quine is resident in Scotland (opposed to being a Scot living elsewhere, I know lots of Scots living in England) he or she should have realised the discussion was about the rules for the c.83% of British population living in England (from the date referred to in the opening post), not the c.7% living in Scotland.

Not only is the user name a give away but the poster had already made reference to the rules in Scotland. 83% of the population might live in England but the rest don’t and have different rules to follow and this thread appears to what is considered local and what’s allowed and those things depend where in the UK you are based. 

In response to both you and @sheramber like most people I don't have time to read every single post in every thread before writing any responses, if you do then great but I would suggest your time is better spent helping people rather than arguing about whether someone later clarified they were talking about rules in Scotland.  By the time I looked at the thread the post you and @sheramber referred to was hidden in the middle of a long thread, so no I didn't miss it I never intended to read the middle posts, only the opening posts and the most recent posts. It was obvious from the opening post that the rules for England were being discussed given the date referenced (as I pointed out already the Scottish roadmap has different dates to the one set by the government in Westminster) but @Torry_Quine initially made no reference to Scotland in his reply saying that local means council district, so it was misleading in the context of this thread.  I get that she later clarified but do we really need the thread to be clogged up with 3 different people all pointing out the same thing in one way or another when the post had no relevance to the original question? It would have been fair enough for her to say the Scottish rules which apply in his case make more sense as local means council district so give a clear definition but saying "where I am" wasn't a helpful response.

It might interest you to know that I Googled Torry Quine following your earlier post and it seems apart from having a CD on sale on Amazon.co.uk, there's no notable results for that name.  It seems she's a former announcer on local TV in the Grampian region who has done a bit of entertainment work, so hardly a name that means anything to the majority of the population, so not really a giveaway especially as Quine is usually considered an Irish name and there's plenty of people in England of Irish descent - I'm one of them.

Torry_Quine

@epm-84
I'm female actually.
By not reading all posts you can miss important information as in this instance.

epm-84

Torry_Quine said:

@epm-84
I'm female actually.
By not reading all posts you can miss important information as in this instance.

I just changed that after I Googled Torry Quine to check on the claim that the name should immediately suggest the poster is Scottish.

Usually the most important posts in a thread are the opening post, any follow up ones from the person who made the opening post (i.e. those providing further clarification) and the most recent replies, which might include follow up questions.

Torry_Quine

epm-84 said:

Torry_Quine said:

@epm-84
I'm female actually.
By not reading all posts you can miss important information as in this instance.

I just changed that after I Googled Torry Quine to check on the claim that the name should immediately suggest the poster is Scottish.

Usually the most important posts in a thread are the opening post, any follow up ones from the person who made the opening post (i.e. those providing further clarification) and the most recent replies, which might include follow up questions.

I certainly wouldn't expect anyone in England to know the derivation of my name. It's a very specific area. I for instance didn't know that Quine was an Irish name. 

justworriedabit

shinytop said:

I've got a simple four word rule for staying local that 95% of people should undestand. It is  "Don't take the pi$$"
The other 5% need everything spelled out in minute detail and it's probably not worth the effort in the scale of things.

Really. 
I see 90% of the population wanting to follow the rules and make every effort like me my family etc to shop online, avoid the supermarket, parks, etc - i rarely go out for a walk - we've not been to  anyones homes etc as per rules.
You are making assumptions re your 5% as I want to go to a park that is not in our council area yet only two miles from our house and we went their at least once a week before all this. 
What is wrong with wanting to know what the law is and therefore making an informed decision?  EG even if the rules mean 20 miles, trust me, we'd still stay at home as before but its nic to know that possibly during the week on a colder day when hardly anyone is about we go in our own transport for a walk, etc to the beach.

When I am driving-  it really helps when there are clear speed signs there stating 40/50mph etc etc it does not mean I will exceed the 40 in a 40 zone but I will be aware of the rules and 100% ensure I adhere to them.
When paying our bills, there is always a date and we always pay before the date - what would you do if you got a bill and there were penalties if you did not pay but no dates given and then you was fined?
I've more than made my case for myself and like minded people and really happy with that and await the Gov link that defines "local" as stated by the poster.
HTH, many thanks.

justworriedabit

Mickey666 said:

epm-84 said:

silvercar said:

"stay local where possible" suggests it is guidance not law.

Currently you are only allowed to leave the home for a few permitted reasons by law, so you need to be able to justify why you are where you are at any time.  Obviously if you are at your nearest supermarket buying food or at your nearest park exercising then there's no debate, you are out for a valid reason.  However, if you're driving 10 miles to ASDA when Tesco is 1 mile away you need a good reason for doing so for it to be legal e.g. ASDA being on your way to work, or on the way to an elderly relative in your support bubble and you're buying food for them as well.

But who decides what is a 'good reason'? A good reason for some people would be that ASDA is cheaper or sells something that Tesco doesn't.  After all, it's not illegal to choose to shop in Asda is it?  Or is it, if Tesco is nearer?

You do indeed post great stuff  - thank you.

GrumpyDil

@Justworriedabit

As far as I am aware as regards English rules there is no definition of local. It has only been used in guidance.
If you want a 'legal' definition would it not make sense to look yourself so you can show how everyone saying there isn't one are wrong. 

od244051

With supermarkets. If your area has small supermarkets, then its reasonable to drive 10 miles to the very large one. The larger supermarkets tend to stock the larger packs of items so its more economical.

justworriedabit

GrumpyDil said:

@Justworriedabit

As far as I am aware as regards English rules there is no definition of local. It has only been used in guidance.
If you want a 'legal' definition would it not make sense to look yourself so you can show how everyone saying there isn't one are wrong. 

I'm safely assuming you've not read the whole thread.
Once you have read the thread, perhaps you want to ask the following poster that question/statment.
Quote:

(JamoLew said:

The definition of “Local” has been published .
” Your village,town or part of a city where you live”)

He or she was clearly implying the gov had "published" the definition. I await to hear your comments
Thanks

MovingForwards

Gosh your new alias hasn't changed from the last one.

Government say:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

"You should minimise the time you spend outside your home, and you should not travel outside your local area."