Received a parking charge because the parking permit slipped and was not fully visible

D_P_Dance

The neighbours have nothing to do with my tenancy agreement terms.

Has anyone suggested that they have?.,  

Stop talking to lawyers, nearly all of them will be unfamiliar wiyth private parking issue, there is no money in it for them.  Your local council will be uninterested, and, as you have paid the scammees the council can do nothing.  Give up and be wiser next time.  this one is over.  

Umkomaas

ritwolf said:

D_P_Dance said:

You have wasted a considerable amount of our time, and probably made life more difficult for your neighbours.   .

Trading Standards   will do nothing as the PPC has acted within the law.  Lawyers cannot help you for the same reason.  You can now do nothing more. .  Be very careful how you park in future, a wheel over a line could be costly

The neighbours have nothing to do with my tenancy agreement terms. If someone has a lease/tenancy agreement and he decides not to pay, his terms apply and they could be different than mine.

I will continue talking to other residents and lawyers, and check if I can complain to my local council or write a letter to my local MP.

Don't you realise that the more people on your estate who pay parking charges as you have, the more the PPC will see it as an 'easy money' setting, a 'honey pot', which, like a hungry bear, they'll be around for more and more honey through increased visits!  You are showing so much naivety. 

ritwolf

Umkomaas said:

ritwolf said:

D_P_Dance said:

You have wasted a considerable amount of our time, and probably made life more difficult for your neighbours.   .

Trading Standards   will do nothing as the PPC has acted within the law.  Lawyers cannot help you for the same reason.  You can now do nothing more. .  Be very careful how you park in future, a wheel over a line could be costly

The neighbours have nothing to do with my tenancy agreement terms. If someone has a lease/tenancy agreement and he decides not to pay, his terms apply and they could be different than mine.

I will continue talking to other residents and lawyers, and check if I can complain to my local council or write a letter to my local MP.

Don't you realise that the more people on your estate who pay parking charges as you have, the more the PPC will see it as an 'easy money' setting, a 'honey pot', which, like a hungry bear, they'll be around for more and more honey through increased visits!  You are showing so much naivety. 

I honestly didn't look at this that way, and I truly wish I had known this before. There is no way I would have paid had I known what D_P_Dance, Fruitcake and other guys have shared today.

I'm new to this... I've only lived in the UK for +5 years and I bought the car just a few months ago. I have never faced this kind of behaviour and now I genuinely wish I could fight for what I think is right, not paying just because I'm very uncomfortable with the thought of going to court.

Umkomaas

because I'm very uncomfortable with the thought of going to court.

But if you're considering counter-suing, where do you think that will be done?

ritwolf

Umkomaas said:

because I'm very uncomfortable with the thought of going to court.

But if you're considering counter-suing, where do you think that will be done?

I haven't been sued in the first place, so it's not counter-suing.

Doing it this way would give me a few more time to consider what I wanted to do without the charge increasing unless I lost the case, so it gave me a few days to mentalize myself to go to court and know if I had any chance to prove they are abusing their position.

Umkomaas

ritwolf said:

Umkomaas said:

because I'm very uncomfortable with the thought of going to court.

But if you're considering counter-suing, where do you think that will be done?

I haven't been sued in the first place, so it's not counter-suing.

Let's just go with 'suing' (for the return of your payment to them), to save splitting hairs.

Half_way

Whilst you are correct that your neighbours have nothing to do with your tenancy agreement , the fact that you agree to pay a parking charge notice for parking in your own space could be used against them.

 As previously mentioned "paying under protest" means diddly squat, no more than if i go to a shop and find goods more costly than i was expecting, once the sale has completed thats the end of it - I would have agreed to paying that sum, even if i moaned to the cashier about them .

By all means talk to people / lawyers etc, but be careful as you don't want to waste any more money.

 Residential cases, and double dips are some of the more obvious cases where a fight back can be easily staged with even the option of going down the GDPR breach route wide open. That would mean that they, either the parking company or the management company/principal ( or both)  could have to pay you for misuse of personal data amongst other things.

As mentioned the biggest, and possibly insurmountable problem is that you have paid, and as a result possibly lost your pre existing  rights to the parking space.

 Good luck with any fightback

p.s i believe the deep /dp dance may have a tid bit of information on the good standing of the parking companies and those involved with them  that you have helped to fund

Coupon-mad

People who pay, fund and sponsor the scam.  Very sad.

ritwolf

Coupon-mad said:

People who pay, fund and sponsor the scam.  Very sad.

Thanks for your contribution 

Coupon-mad

It is what we all think after years of doing this and it's the painful truth. 

If the British public victims of this scam industry didn't pay, as many nations' citizens absolutely would not, the industry would not have become the monster it is.  So bad is it now that the Government have had to step in and in particular it is residents and shoppers who need protecting, and will be able to appeal to a fair and independent body in future, once the new Code of Practice is finalised this year:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

It's not just us saying that this was not to be paid and supported.  The RAC and MPs tell people not to pay, hence the new Act coming in.