Received a parking charge because the parking permit slipped and was not fully visible

ritwolf

Jenni_D said:

nosferatu1001 said:

His lease has no bearing on you, if it is more restrictive. 

... provided that there's nothing in the tenancy agreement that references the head lease and any rights and obligations contained therein. (In which case such R&O would need to be explicitly defined and/or a copy of the head lease supplied with the TA).

Thank you Jenni_D, what is R&O?

nosferatu1001

Rights aand Obligations. 

ritwolf

It's frustrating, when I decided to pay and then go to small claims court I was following advice from Citizens Advice:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/parking-tickets/appealing-parking-tickets/appealing-a-parking-ticket/

It seemed a reliable source and it made sense to me at the time, but wish I had gone with the suggestions here instead.

nosferatu1001

CAB are terrible, which is consistent advice on here
CABs script on parking matters was written for them by the BPA

Umkomaas

Pay and make a small claim to get the money back

If you don’t want the parking company to take you to court, you should pay your parking ticket - this will stop the fine going up.

When you pay, you should say you’re ‘paying under protest’. It’s a good idea to put it in writing so you can keep a copy.

Then you can go to court and make a ‘small claim’ to try to get your money back - find out how to make a small claim.

You’ll have to pay a fee to make a small claim - you can find out how much the fee will be on GOV.UK. You might also have to pay court costs if you lose your case.

If you’re claiming because your parking ticket was unfair, you might have to make 2 separate claims. You’ll also have to pay 2 fees.

The first claim is to agree that your parking ticket is unfair. If the court agrees that it is, the parking company has to cancel the fine.

The second claim is to decide how much the fine should have been if it was fair. The court might decide that you still have to pay a fine, but it should be smaller.

I have never seen one single case reported here of anyone following this ridiculous advice.  Two separate court claims?  The 'first claim' to agree that you parking ticket is unfair - are they serious?  Then a 'second claim to decide how much the fine (sic) should have been'. This is just utter drivel. 

I wouldn't even know where to start to put all this garbage right, other than to fire up the shredder!

Coupon-mad

If you’re claiming because your parking ticket was unfair, you might have to make 2 separate claims. You’ll also have to pay 2 fees.

The first claim is to agree that your parking ticket is unfair. If the court agrees that it is, the parking company has to cancel the fine.

The second claim is to decide how much the fine should have been if it was fair. The court might decide that you still have to pay a fine, but it should be smaller.

What complete idiot wrote that?  It is atrocious twaddle.

Half_way

this?

 https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/parking-tickets/appealing-parking-tickets/appealing-a-parking-ticket/

and at the bottom ....

"

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ritwolf

At that moment I thought the suggestion by Citizens Advice was as valid as the suggestion given here. Their approach looked safer as a consumer and I was expecting Trading Standards to be knowledgeable in this area and aware of the problem with these PPCs. This is the main reason I took my decision.

I guess I can only say lesson learned.

D_P_Dance

The problem with the PPCs is that people pay them, the problem is that the judges let them get away with abuse of process, wasting  court time,  and not punishing incompetent  lawyers.  You are in the position you are is because you ignored our advice.

ritwolf

D_P_Dance said:

The problem with the PPCs is that people pay them, the problem is that the judges let them get away with abuse of process, wasting  court time,  and not punishing incompetent  lawyers.  You are in the position you are is because you ignored our advice.

Once again, I want to clarify that I didn't ignore your advice. I contrasted the information given here with other sources, and took a decision based on the information I was able to gather, with my limited experience and understanding of PPCs at the time.

I am in this position because I didn't know that the advice offered by Citizens Advice is wrong, and how would I? This is the first time I face an abusive charge like this, and I'd always seen Citizens Advice as a reliable entity.