DCBL letters ..... forum group thread

Not_Scammed

holyvindaloo said:

unfortunately no one qualified

So why park in it?  

D_P_Dance

Parking in a disabled bay  without a BB is a very difficult event to fight in court.  IMO you should consider paying  the PCN.

Trainerman

@holyvindaloo, what do you think a disabled person who was shut out by your parking would say ?

jenny3260

Hi all, I have received this today for a parking ticket issued back in 2017. Would the next steps for me be to send UKPC an SAR request? If so, would an email suffice and is there a template for this anywhere? Do I need to contact my MP? Thanks in advance 

patient_dream

jenny3260 said:

Hi all, I have received this today for a parking ticket issued back in 2017. Would the next steps for me be to send UKPC an SAR request? If so, would an email suffice and is there a template for this anywhere? Do I need to contact my MP? Thanks in advance 

Normal stuff from DCBL.   Their claim is a fake, no such thing as a parking ticket back in 2017 being £160.

They mention it includes debt collection charges which they are not entitled to and judges do not allow ...... you see, the current BPA code of pracice mentions debt collection charges but the version is dated 2018.  In the 2017 code when the ticket was issued, no mention was made about debt collection charges and your ticket can only relate to 2017.  Unless of course DCBL have got a Tardis and are going ahead in time 

For a 2017 ticket, they need to advise you of their legal authority to add a £60 fake.

DCBL keep falling into this trap and the courts are not amused by fakery

Coupon-mad

SAR template is where you'd expect: in the NEWBIES thread in the SAR and LBC stage section .

kiss_me_now9

Hi all, I have received a letter like the one posted above regarding a parking 'charge' I was lucky enough to be given when someone used my parking space in the flat complex I lived in in 2017 whilst I was at uni and I had to park in the visitors parking over night (as an alternative to, I'm not sure what - maybe parking on top of the car parked in my space?). 

I am a bear of little brain and am getting confused as to whether I write a letter of complaint to the management company of the flat complex and see if they can cancel it or if I complete a SAR. My concern with the complaint route is that I have no leverage on them as I don't live in the area any more and am not a consumer/purchaser of their 'goods', if you will, so there's no need to keep me sweet as a retail or leisure company may need to do. Secondly, I had since got married and as such my V5C is with the DVLA being updated (I actually have no idea if that will be back before christmas), which I think is something I would need to send with the SAR? The car is still mine though. 

(Could someone also please confirm that tickets do indeed get written off after 6 years? I had a series of letters from their chums in DCBLimited about a parking ticket I got at my workplace - a hospital - in October 2015; all of those were the same and arrived at the same time as the ones about my charge in university accommodation except this time there's only the one from DCBLegal.)

D_P_Dance

They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount of £60 for debt collection. Judges have dismissed an entire claim because of this. Read this and complain to your MP.

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V%20Excel%20v%20Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1

patient_dream

Tickets or other debts are not written off after 6 years but they cannot go through the courts to enforce them. Nothing more they can do to you.  DCBL know that so any threats about timed out so called debts should be reported to the SRA, The Solicitors Regulation Authority

What is the latest ticket about and what is the date ?

kiss_me_now9

patient_dream said:

Tickets or other debts are not written off after 6 years but they cannot go through the courts to enforce them. Nothing more they can do to you.  DCBL know that so any threats about timed out so called debts should be reported to the SRA, The Solicitors Regulation Authority

What is the latest ticket about and what is the date ?

So the latest ticket that I have received the LOC for is the one I got for parking in a visitor space overnight in the flat I rented whilst at uni, because someone else parked in my designated parking space and I had nowhere else to put my car (highly likely to be a football stadium visitor, as the flat complex was opposite a league 1 football stadium which had played the day before and IIRC the gates were broken for a few months so there were lots of issues with people who didn't live in the flat complex parking in people's spaces on match days, though could have been another flat's visitor). Was received 09/07/2017. The complaint is 'parked in a permit area without displaying a permit' but I always left my parking permit in my car and would have no reason to remove it.