Help regarding car I bought on finance, that’s modified.

Mikej92

Manxman_in_exile said:

Mikej92 said:

Just incase he sees, no problem, leave them open then 

Aylesbury_Duck said:

To be honest, that might help you.  He'll see you're getting good advice and aren't prepared to drop it.

I think I'd be emailing him a link to this thread, highlighting the posts that say he can't use such a disclaimer and that he's committing a criminal offence selling an unroadworthy car.

Given him a few chances to resolve it, but he doesn’t want to know, and seems to think my rights aren’t there regarding this.

I was given a warranty also, which is now completely invalid due to the engine modification, and ecu tune (ecu will show a tuning code regardless of whether they tune it back to standard, this is info from Ford themselves.) 

so he’s technically given out a completely invalid warranty too.

williamgriffin

Mikej92 said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

Can a dealer sell a vehicle that would fail an MOT?

Yes.

Do we know this one would? No. The DPF may well have been modified invisibly.

But the act of making the retail buyer sign a disclaimer in this regard is in itself an admission of guilt.

No, it's not...

Mikej92 said:

Look at the disclaimer he posted in the other thread...

Is that an admission that it's been clocked, too?

Fine, he described it as a stand alone document rather than part of the contract. It still doesn't mean that his rights have been signed away though, may be up to a court to decide of course. They could of course include a clause that they don;t guarantee the car has an engine, seats etc etc doesn't mean that's enforceable.

It's a lot easier to see if the engine or seats are missing than a DPF. Especially if it's been removed in such a way to hide the removal from Mr MOT.

Exactly this, I have other correspondence from the dealer, I’ve offered him a reasonable resolution, which he is declining also.. my cars now illegal, uninsured, no mot or tax.

im now going to be almost £3000 out of pocket if I need to get this road legal myself, he provided me a warranty , which is also now VOID, due to the engine having a modification.

may I add, this car is only 3 weeks into a finance agreement.

as above, I offered him a reasonable resolution , he has said , and I quote.
”from experience if you put a DPF back in, it will ruin the car, regarding insurance, I wouldn’t tell them pal”

What work did it go into the garage for if you've only had it four weeks and bought it with a warranty?

In your OP you stated you wanted to see if anything is needed for the next mot, a lot can change in 48 weeks.

Mikej92

williamgriffin said:

Mikej92 said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

Can a dealer sell a vehicle that would fail an MOT?

Yes.

Do we know this one would? No. The DPF may well have been modified invisibly.

But the act of making the retail buyer sign a disclaimer in this regard is in itself an admission of guilt.

No, it's not...

Mikej92 said:

Look at the disclaimer he posted in the other thread...

Is that an admission that it's been clocked, too?

Fine, he described it as a stand alone document rather than part of the contract. It still doesn't mean that his rights have been signed away though, may be up to a court to decide of course. They could of course include a clause that they don;t guarantee the car has an engine, seats etc etc doesn't mean that's enforceable.

It's a lot easier to see if the engine or seats are missing than a DPF. Especially if it's been removed in such a way to hide the removal from Mr MOT.

Exactly this, I have other correspondence from the dealer, I’ve offered him a reasonable resolution, which he is declining also.. my cars now illegal, uninsured, no mot or tax.

im now going to be almost £3000 out of pocket if I need to get this road legal myself, he provided me a warranty , which is also now VOID, due to the engine having a modification.

may I add, this car is only 3 weeks into a finance agreement.

as above, I offered him a reasonable resolution , he has said , and I quote.
”from experience if you put a DPF back in, it will ruin the car, regarding insurance, I wouldn’t tell them pal”

What work did it go into the garage for if you've only had it four weeks and bought it with a warranty?

In your OP you stated you wanted to see if anything is needed for the next mot, a lot can change in 48 weeks.

I took it in because it sounded very loud when I started the car, That's how they then went on to examining the exhaust and finding that.

Finding that they also informed me that the ECU would of had to have been altered also, thus voiding all warranty the car had.
It was a general inspection rather than what it needed for it's next mot, but they informed that it wouldn't pass its next MOT based on the fact they found it had no DPF, think I may of worded that part incorrectly.

williamgriffin

Speak to the finance company in the morning about rejecting the vehicle, do so in writing to the dealer and stop using the car.

Mikej92

williamgriffin said:

Speak to the finance company in the morning about rejecting the vehicle, do so in writing to the dealer and stop using the car.

Yep, it’s parked up being un used on a garage forecourt, due to it being unusable.

Mikej92

Once again, thanks to everyone that’s helped! I’ll update when I get more info.

im doing some more research online so I can arm my self accordingly, a tri partite agreement, is what I’m in and should cover me from here out.

williamgriffin

Mikej92 said:

williamgriffin said:

Speak to the finance company in the morning about rejecting the vehicle, do so in writing to the dealer and stop using the car.

Yep, it’s parked up being un used on a garage forecourt, due to it being unusable.

Hope it's secure given it's not insured, have you sorn yet?

Hasbeen

Ops other 2 threads on this subject are still running in Motoring and Parking Tickets with replies.

Could some one perhaps move, merge together?

Mikej92

williamgriffin said:

Mikej92 said:

williamgriffin said:

Speak to the finance company in the morning about rejecting the vehicle, do so in writing to the dealer and stop using the car.

Yep, it’s parked up being un used on a garage forecourt, due to it being unusable.

Hope it's secure given it's not insured, have you sorn yet?

Managed to sort my insurance, they’ve allowed me 5 working days based on the fact it’s being repaired/being returned. So it’s there at the moment, and yes secure, it’s on a gated forecourt .

AdrianC

Mikej92 said:
my cars now illegal, uninsured, no mot or tax.

Umm, why is it uninsured, no MOT, no tax?