Help regarding car I bought on finance, that’s modified.

DiddyDavies

williamgriffin said:

NottinghamKnight said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

Can a dealer sell a vehicle that would fail an MOT?

Yes.

Do we know this one would? No. The DPF may well have been modified invisibly.

But the act of making the retail buyer sign a disclaimer in this regard is in itself an admission of guilt.

Is it?

Well, it's certainly illegal as a consumer can't sign away their statutory rights, something that the dealer was attempting to get the OP to do by signing the waiver.

Mikej92

Just incase he sees, no problem, leave them open then 

AdrianC

NottinghamKnight said:

AdrianC said:

NottinghamKnight said:

Can a dealer sell a vehicle that would fail an MOT?

Yes.

Do we know this one would? No. The DPF may well have been modified invisibly.

But the act of making the retail buyer sign a disclaimer in this regard is in itself an admission of guilt.

No, it's not...

Mikej92 said:

Look at the disclaimer he posted in the other thread...

Is that an admission that it's been clocked, too?

Le_Kirk

There is a quite long thread about this issue on Consumer Rights forum.

Aylesbury_Duck

To be honest, that might help you.  He'll see you're getting good advice and aren't prepared to drop it.

tedted

before the new regs i removed a lot of dpf that had become blocked and not one failed the emission test results maybe a bit higher but passed.it is difficult for a tester to assertain if the dpf has been removed just because you can a welded portion a lot these where done to power wash the dpf

Hasbeen

tedted said:

before the new regs i removed a lot of dpf that had become blocked and not one failed the emission test results maybe a bit higher but passed.it is difficult for a tester to assertain if the dpf has been removed just because you can a welded portion a lot these where done to power wash the dpf

Still happens, cars can still pass. Emissions and smoke test. 
Some owners keep a DPF fitted exhaust and replace just for MOT.
Only way to actually confirm is to look for cut out / rewelded patch on exhaust.
Usually to the top.

Grumpy_chap

I am amazed that we have come this far without knowing the type, age, mileage, and price of the vehicle.  All we know is it is a diesel Ford, non-main-dealer, but sufficiently expensive to warrant finance.

That disclaimer seems to be far to broad in what it tries to cover to offer the garage any protection against come-back at all.  Particularly the first part of what we see, effectively saying the car is "sold as seen", which really means nothing when purchased from a dealer.  The purchaser is not deemed to have the knowledge to know that the vehicle is free from defects.

Mikej92 said:

Mikej92

Thanks for the advice guys, tried my best with the dealer, with no outcome, so I think I’m going to have to go to my finance company.

it’s a 2015 focus diesel, 67k miles.
price was 11250

nosferatu1001

And if it is illegal to use on the highway, it's illegal to sell it 
Don't sign things if you don't know what you're signing