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Help regarding car I bought on finance, that’s modified.

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Mikej92
Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
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edited 3 January 2021 at 4:28PM in Motoring
Hi there! I recently purchased a financed car from a dealership( around 4 weeks ago) during the hand over process, he handed me a ‘DPF delete waiver’ (diesel car).

now he went on to tell me that, that the only reason I’d need to sign this is because he recently had a customer, that found out their car had the DPF removed, and rightly so, had the garage pay to fit one back in.

To myself and most people, I didn’t think anything of it, and signed away, not thinking I was possibly this ‘customer’ and he was making a story up..

my car has recently been in for some work, the mechanics done a general inspection, a general health check.

upon looking into it, they have found that the car indeed does not have a DPF, so going off his story, I am that ‘recent’ customer.

where do I stand with this? My car was clearly modified prior to sale and he must of knew to give me that story, I’ve looked further into it at my local dealership and they also see a code stored in the ecu, to show it has had ecu tuning.

am I right in saying this car is missold? I’ve been told it would not pass its next mot due to the DPF being deleted.
Any help would be massively appreciated.
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  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
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    Hi there! I recently purchased a financed car from a dealership( around 4 weeks ago) during the hand over process, he handed me a ‘DPF delete waiver’ (diesel car).

    now he went on to tell me that, that the only reason I’d need to sign this is because he recently had a customer, that found out their car had the DPF removed, and rightly so, had the garage pay to fit one back in.

    To myself and most people, I didn’t think anything of it, and signed away, not thinking I was possibly this ‘customer’ and he was making a story up..

    my car has recently been in for some work, the mechanics done a general inspection, and I also wanted to check over to see if it would need anything for its next mot, a general health check.

    upon looking into it, they have found that the car indeed does not have a DPF, so going off his story, I am that ‘recent’ customer.

    where do I stand with this? My car was clearly modified prior to sale and he must of knew to give me that story, I’ve looked further into it at my local dealership and they also see a code stored in the ecu, to show it has had ecu tuning.

    am I right in saying this car is missold? I’ve been told it would not pass its next mot due to the DPF being deleted.
    Any help would be massively appreciated.
  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts
    Hi there! I recently purchased a financed car from a dealership( around 4 weeks ago) during the hand over process, he handed me a ‘DPF delete waiver’ (diesel car).

    now he went on to tell me that, that the only reason I’d need to sign this is because he recently had a customer, that found out their car had the DPF removed, and rightly so, had the garage pay to fit one back in.

    To myself and most people, I didn’t think anything of it, and signed away, not thinking I was possibly this ‘customer’ and he was making a story up..

    my car has recently been in for some work, the mechanics done a general inspection, and I also wanted to check over to see if it would need anything for its next mot, a general health check.

    upon looking into it, they have found that the car indeed does not have a DPF, so going off his story, I am that ‘recent’ customer.

    where do I stand with this? My car was clearly modified prior to sale and he must of knew to give me that story, I’ve looked further into it at my local dealership and they also see a code stored in the ecu, to show it has had ecu tuning.

    am I right in saying this car is missold? I’ve been told it would not pass its next mot due to the DPF being deleted.
    Any help would be massively appreciated.
  • Umkomaas
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    You're on a parking forum here. Maybe try the quite separate 'Motoring' forum. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
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    Oh it brought me to this when I clicked it haha. 
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 2 January 2021 at 3:08PM
    Mikej92 said:
    Oh it brought me to this when I clicked it haha. 
    Look at the breadcrumb trail below and click on 'Motoring', that should get you to the right starting point. Good luck. 

    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
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    So you signed a waiver saying the DPF was removed or a waiver that said the DPF was removed but replaced? Your point on that isn't clear. Your advice depends on what the waiver actually says regarding this.
  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
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    bris said:
    So you signed a waiver saying the DPF was removed or a waiver that said the DPF was removed but replaced? Your point on that isn't clear. Your advice depends on what the waiver actually says regarding this.
    So the waiver pretty much said that I can’t claim if it turns out my car has no DPF, if further down the line i have it checked and there isn’t one there.

    he used a ‘story’ to cover up the fact that it was probably the car I was purchasing, being given a general story I didn’t think it would be an issue, so i signed it.. reason behind me signing was it had an mot the day I picked it up (my understanding is, if it had an mot hours before I picked it up, then the DPF was obviously in tact and there)

    when in actual fact, when I’ve had it checked over, it isn’t there, it’s been removed and welded back in place, and the ecu also tuned.

    im now told my car is not legal for the road, and my insurance is also void due to it not being road worthy.
  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
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    So this is the ‘waiver’ obviously I cannot inspect a car on the floor, to see whether it had a DPF or not.

    this ‘should’ of flagged up in the mot it had 6 hours prior to me taking ownership, IF the mot was a legit one I guess..they say returns are not accepted, but my understanding is, this car has been missold, and not roadworthy, and a dodgy mot.
  • Mikej92
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