November 2020 international travel rules

CKhalvashi

Ajay55 said:

Due to fly on holiday on Sunday 8th Nov.  Contacted Ryanair yesterday to ask to move flight to New date free as per adverts and told that as flight is within 7 day fees apply even if its against law for me to fly.. Ryanair will not cancel flight and insist I pay difference, which I expected plus £35 fee each way and that the £25 luggage fee I paid on this flight can't transfer and I have to pay it again so £120 fees because flight is within 7 days..  Please can anyone offer advice? 

Yes, if the flight is going, you are bound by Ryanair's terms and conditions, therefore they are correct.

If you expect anything else than the bare minimum, don't fly with Ryanair.

silvercar

I almost want to whisper this, for fear of a backlash, but on some forums/ chat sites people are looking at the statutory instruments that have just been published and saying that flying off on holiday isn't actually banned. 

Leodogger

silvercar said:

I almost want to whisper this, for fear of a backlash, but on some forums/ chat sites people are looking at the statutory instruments that have just been published and saying that flying off on holiday isn't actually banned. 

Apparently I read somewhere that the Foreign Office is publishing new guidelines on Thursday morning at 00.01.a.m. banning international travel, presumably when the votes are in from Westminster to confirm the lockdown.   So at the moment the advice is still "advised against except essential travel" but after the publishing of the new guidelines with a ban included, who knows ?  You can be fined from £1000 up to £10,000 depending on the number of offences, for breaking lockdown rules at the moment so it is a matter of whether people want to take the risk I guess.

Leodogger

Ajay55 said:

Due to fly on holiday on Sunday 8th Nov.  Contacted Ryanair yesterday to ask to move flight to New date free as per adverts and told that as flight is within 7 day fees apply even if its against law for me to fly.. Ryanair will not cancel flight and insist I pay difference, which I expected plus £35 fee each way and that the £25 luggage fee I paid on this flight can't transfer and I have to pay it again so £120 fees because flight is within 7 days..  Please can anyone offer advice? 

Same thing happened to me, I didn't know though that they don't carry across the baggage fees, does that include if you pay the "Plus" fee for priority ticket I wonder ?   Does anyone know ?

Leodogger

Just had a fractious conversation with Ryanair CS and basically you can't transfer almost anything across to a new booking, since they charge you £35 to transfer for each leg on each flight, none of the baggage fees are transferable, so basically they are crediting you with almost nothing!    I paid £122 each for the tickets but they don't split out the baggage charge from this cost and I paid to upgrade my own booking with a £48 one off charge for an extra cabin bag and have lost that too.     I told them I wouldn't touch them again with a barge pole next time.   They don't even have the integrity to offer to transfer the flights cost free for people like us who weren't told only 6 days before the flight that we are banned from travelling and to get out of paying cancellation charges, he is running the flight anyway!    In other words you are trapped like a fly in a web or you risk being fined £1000 if caught trying to travel during the lockdown.

cubegame

As predicted, The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) 

(No. 4) Regulations 2020 don't mention a travel ban.

bradders1983

cubegame said:

As predicted, The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) 

(No. 4) Regulations 2020 don't mention a travel ban.

Well there we go then. Leodogger, enjoy your trip.

DCFC79

cubegame said:

As predicted, The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) 

(No. 4) Regulations 2020 don't mention a travel ban.

Number 11 here says holidays in UK and abroad aren't allowed.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november?priority-taxon=774cee22-d896-44c1-a611-e3109cce8eae#travel

sheramber

cubegame said:

As predicted, The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) 

(No. 4) Regulations 2020 don't mention a travel ban.

It does say
Restrictions on leaving home 5.—(1) No person may leave or be outside of the place where they are living without reasonable excuse. (2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)— (a) the circumstances in which a person has a reasonable excuse include where one of the exceptions set out in regulation 6 applies; (b) the place where a person is living includes the premises where they live together with any garden, yard, passage, stair, garage, outhouse or other appurtenance of such premises. 

 Travelling to go on holiday is not one of the exceptions  set out in regulation 6. 

Leodogger

bradders1983 said:

cubegame said:

As predicted, The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) 

(No. 4) Regulations 2020 don't mention a travel ban.

Well there we go then. Leodogger, enjoy your trip.

What is the Health Protection rules for ?   Wouldn't these be over ridden by a new Gov law passed on the lockdown rules?   I am genuinely confused now.