November 2020 international travel rules

Leodogger

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

mattyprice4004

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

Leodogger

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

mattyprice4004

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

I completely understand, and agree - but Ryanair want you on there just as much as you want to be; the choice was taken away from them too.

If they didn't let you board due to restrictions imposed on them by the Government, that wouldn't be their fault either - they're only following the rules passed onto them.

Leodogger

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

I completely understand, and agree - but Ryanair want you on there just as much as you want to be; the choice was taken away from them too.

If they didn't let you board due to restrictions imposed on them by the Government, that wouldn't be their fault either - they're only following the rules passed onto them.

Yes but they should offer compensation, they are breaking the contract with me, not I with them !

mattyprice4004

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

I completely understand, and agree - but Ryanair want you on there just as much as you want to be; the choice was taken away from them too.

If they didn't let you board due to restrictions imposed on them by the Government, that wouldn't be their fault either - they're only following the rules passed onto them.

Yes but they should offer compensation, they are breaking the contract with me, not I with them !

They're not though - the Government is preventing YOU, the public from travelling for leisure, not them from carrying you.
You're the one who isn't allowed the travel, none of the restrictions affect airlines themselves.

greensalad

Leodogger said:

greensalad said:

Leodogger said:

Thrugelmir said:

Ben1989 said:

JamoLew said:

I really cant believe you are encouraging someone to travel from a Tier 3 area (against advice) to go on holiday (against advice)
No wonder we are in a mess again !!
Let's just all do what we want shall we and allow thousands more to die (and not just from CV-19)
It's heartbreaking for us NHS workers 

NHS hold my absolute respect. I understand your frustration but my wife has not seen her family in two years. She also has a degrading family member. As mentioned, we will be self-isolating prior to travelling, I will be having a test during my isolation from a ONS visitor. Once arriving, we will be quarantining and paying for tests after a few days to ensure there was no airport transmission. Upon arriving back to the UK we will be straight in the car straight home and self-isolating for two weeks.

I am a strict PPE follower, we haven't been to a single restaurant or bar since March. Purely seeing family when it was allowed and work. My wife has been working from home since March and is going insane. 

Your frustration should be aimed at young people who decide to go pubs to see their 9 mates, ordering meals without touching them just to get drunk, people who go into the shop without their mask because they're only 'nipping in', people who think their nose is not attached to their airway and therefore do not need to cover it, people who have tests and go into work before their results because 'it's definitely just a cold', people who land from a non-exempt country and go out on a bender as soon as they land and sack isolating off.

Then everyone wonders why Covid goes around and around. The sooner the borders are shut down the better. The only countries that are being successful in containing Covid are those who've restricted movement. 

Which ones are they prey?    As every country in Europe it is out of control !

New Zealand. My family who live there were running a half-marathon in the city just a few days ago with thousands of others.

And ???????????

And what? I answered your question.

Leodogger

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

I completely understand, and agree - but Ryanair want you on there just as much as you want to be; the choice was taken away from them too.

If they didn't let you board due to restrictions imposed on them by the Government, that wouldn't be their fault either - they're only following the rules passed onto them.

Yes but they should offer compensation, they are breaking the contract with me, not I with them !

They're not though - the Government is preventing YOU, the public from travelling for leisure, not them from carrying you.
You're the one who isn't allowed the travel, none of the restrictions affect airlines themselves.

If that were the case, then NO other airline would be offering compensation but they are, so that blows your theory out of the water don't you think !

mattyprice4004

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

Leodogger said:

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

I completely understand, and agree - but Ryanair want you on there just as much as you want to be; the choice was taken away from them too.

If they didn't let you board due to restrictions imposed on them by the Government, that wouldn't be their fault either - they're only following the rules passed onto them.

Yes but they should offer compensation, they are breaking the contract with me, not I with them !

They're not though - the Government is preventing YOU, the public from travelling for leisure, not them from carrying you.
You're the one who isn't allowed the travel, none of the restrictions affect airlines themselves.

If that were the case, then NO other airline would be offering compensation but they are, so that blows your theory out of the water don't you think !

No, no it doesn't - read the other comments. Other airlines are doing it out of goodwill, which isn't a thing with Ryanair. They do what they have to, and nothing else.

I get you're annoyed, but you are wrong - it's a bad situation for everyone but what I've said is how it is, how the law is set out and just what we all have to deal with.

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Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I quite agree, the individual is the victim in all this, let the airlines slug it out with the government but give the passengers compensation by all means, it was not my fault I cannot travel!

It's not as simple as that - the airlines simply don't have the money to refund everyone, and it's not their fault you can't travel either.

It's a Government restriction, any anger should be directed at them at not the airline.

It's rubbish, I was in the same situation earlier in the year - but it is what it is, and currently legislation says you're not entitled to a refund if the flight leaves but you can't be on it for whatever reason.

The point is the choice has not been left to us, we want to be on it!   Our choice has been taken away and for that WE are not to blame.    I could turn up and they may or may not allow me to board, if they did not, that would be THEIR fault not mine if I were there to fly on time !

I completely understand, and agree - but Ryanair want you on there just as much as you want to be; the choice was taken away from them too.

If they didn't let you board due to restrictions imposed on them by the Government, that wouldn't be their fault either - they're only following the rules passed onto them.

Yes but they should offer compensation, they are breaking the contract with me, not I with them !

They're not though - the Government is preventing YOU, the public from travelling for leisure, not them from carrying you.
You're the one who isn't allowed the travel, none of the restrictions affect airlines themselves.

If that were the case, then NO other airline would be offering compensation but they are, so that blows your theory out of the water don't you think !

To change a flight that isn't cancelled requires goodwill on an airline.

Ryanair are known for the complete opposite of this, which is why I refuse to give them money. If you want an airline that shows some mercy, either book with Easyjet, BA etc on a flexible ticket or book the other ULCC with their flex service.