November 2020 international travel rules

Leodogger

epm-84 said:

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silvercar said:

mattyprice4004 said:

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Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

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bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

Rightly so, it shouldn't be down to airlines if the Gov advice changes at the last minute (and thankfully it isn't).

If anyone, be angry at the Government - it's not Ryanair's fault you can't travel, and thus they shouldn't (and won't) have to pick up the tab.

It’s not individual’s fault either!

That other airlines are being far more helpful shows Ryanair in a bad light.
BA will refund me if they cancel my flight or give me a future travel voucher if the flight goes ahead, but regulations mean I can’t use it.
people will remember in the future, who looked after their customers better.

I agree with you completely - it's terrible customer service, but that won't bother Mr O'leary a jot.

The awful truth is money speaks, and while a good few people will likely choose other airlines a lot will still fly with Ryanair purely down to the low prices.

Yes the thing about Ryanair is even with add-ons like checked baggage they can be significantly cheaper than other airlines if booked at the right time.  If it's £80pp return with Ryanair or £150pp with another airline then people, in the knowledge Ryanair customer service is terrible, will think an extra £70pp for increased assurance is a bit pricey.

Well I will never book with Ryanair again!    Since they told me I couldn't change my flights from Nov after O'Leary was bragging about them doing it free of charge and then told me "only within 7 days of the flight", when I only had 6 days notice of the lockdown, I am going to lose getting on for £250 for transfer fees and to change to more expensive flights next year!!    I wouldn't touch Ryanair with a bargepole after that, two faced lying git !   They even told me I would have to pay transfer fees on the RETURN flight even though it was in January and obviously more than 7 days away but because it only applied to Nov flights I couldn't get that either !   What really annoyed me too was that I was booked for 4th November (outside the lockdown) and they changed it only 2 weeks ago, just long enough to stop me claiming compensation for a delayed flight and long enough to force me to loses money because I could not use the flights!   Makes me wonder if he knew what Boris was intending and deliberately moved the flight inside the lockdown period.   I wouldn't put anything past  O'leary, he is too greedy and cunning by half for my liking.

Leodogger

unforeseen said:

Leodogger said:

We were due to fly on Friday (rotten luck eh?) to Spain to visit our daughter for a couple of months and wondered if we would be stopped at the airport and therefore lose our flights?    Is there any guidance on whether you are just fined or what, as to change the flights Ryanair kindly said we could change without charge until in the small print it says "under 7 days" you have to pay the admin charge of £35 per person plus the extra charge on the price of the new flights !    We were going to just push the flights back to 4th Dec and stomach the admin charge but now they are talking it could be extended so Christmas out the window !   Did ring Ryanair to ask if they would be cancelling the flight for us to get a refund or a free change of flight date but he said they had no guidance on it at the moment and haven't heard anything, yet we only got 6 days notice from Boris's announcement to try to change the dates and it seems totally unfair that no refund is being offered if we are not entitled to fly through no fault of our own!   If we change again this will be the 5th attempt to try to book our break in Spain too, so I am pretty peed off ! 😒😒😒

You need to check the current situation with your daughter as Spain has declared a state of emergency. 
I know that travel into or out of Seville and Madrid are banned apart from essential reasons such as medical or work. Spain don't mess about and enforce the rules strictly

I speak to my daughter every day and she keeps me updated on the situation.    People are barred from moving from region to region and there is a curfew after 10.p.m. and they have to wear masks everywhere (unlike here!), BUT their bars and restaurants have remained open in CDS where she lives and I was really looking forward to seeing her for Christmas, now Boris has smashed my chances again (5 times I have had to change my travel plans from before the 1st Lockdown!!).    I won't be voting for the Tories needless to say ever again !   The man is an idiot.

epm-84

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JamoLew said:

A holiday is NOT essential travel - be prepared to be turned around

BBC: From Thursday, holidays both inside England and abroad will be banned until 2 December, as the government tries to stop a second wave of coronavirus from spreading.
Independant: Overnight stays and holidays away from primary residences will not be allowed – including holidays in the UK and abroad.

guess I can ignore all the other "advice" when I go back into work in an NHS hospital tomorrow as well then

Yey - no more mask, no more wrecked hands from washing etc - don't worry, the patients will be fine

The Foreign Office is putting out new advice Thursday morning to ban all non-essential travel, pity they are not offering a refund too on holidays booked BEFORE March !!   Easy to throw out these rules left, right and centre.   How many deaths will they have on their hands from suicides which are soaring.

For those who have booked a package or have suitable insurance banning non-essential travel is what will trigger a refund/insurance payout.

Unfortunately, those who booked flights with Ryanair and have insurance which excludes anything related to COVID-19 are screwed.

No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !

Incorrect.  Coverwise and Staysure provide some cover relating to COVID-19 but not against every possible scenario which might be related to COVID.

https://www.coverwise.co.uk/Travel-Insurance/corona-virus.aspx
https://www.staysure.co.uk/coronavirus-travel-insurance/ 

I have just been looking at Staysure for next year and it doesn't cover you for Covid whilst you are away if you go against Foreign Office Advice, even with their extra cover which falsely claims to cover you for Covid, it only covers you for BEFORE you go on your trip.  You need to read the small print.

Yes you always need to read the wording but saying no insurance company covers COVID for new policies was wrong, it seems what you actually meant was no-one provides the exact cover you want.

The best thing if you're looking at booking next year is to book a package with someone who lets you cancel, change or postpone your trip if there's FCDO advice against travel.  It sounds like you want a policy which will allow you to travel against FCDO advice and will cover you for getting COVID while away which isn't possible. 

You can buy multiple policies but be aware if you make a claim which both policies cover you for then each insurer is jointly liable e.g. if one policy says £25 per day for baggage delay and another says £75 per day, you won't get £100 per day by having two policies.  However, you could get Staysure's quarantine benefit in full from Staysure if you have Coverwise insurance as well (which doesn't have that benefit.)  

Leodogger

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

JamoLew said:

A holiday is NOT essential travel - be prepared to be turned around

BBC: From Thursday, holidays both inside England and abroad will be banned until 2 December, as the government tries to stop a second wave of coronavirus from spreading.
Independant: Overnight stays and holidays away from primary residences will not be allowed – including holidays in the UK and abroad.

guess I can ignore all the other "advice" when I go back into work in an NHS hospital tomorrow as well then

Yey - no more mask, no more wrecked hands from washing etc - don't worry, the patients will be fine

The Foreign Office is putting out new advice Thursday morning to ban all non-essential travel, pity they are not offering a refund too on holidays booked BEFORE March !!   Easy to throw out these rules left, right and centre.   How many deaths will they have on their hands from suicides which are soaring.

For those who have booked a package or have suitable insurance banning non-essential travel is what will trigger a refund/insurance payout.

Unfortunately, those who booked flights with Ryanair and have insurance which excludes anything related to COVID-19 are screwed.

No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !

Incorrect.  Coverwise and Staysure provide some cover relating to COVID-19 but not against every possible scenario which might be related to COVID.

https://www.coverwise.co.uk/Travel-Insurance/corona-virus.aspx
https://www.staysure.co.uk/coronavirus-travel-insurance/ 

I have just been looking at Staysure for next year and it doesn't cover you for Covid whilst you are away if you go against Foreign Office Advice, even with their extra cover which falsely claims to cover you for Covid, it only covers you for BEFORE you go on your trip.  You need to read the small print.

Yes you always need to read the wording but saying no insurance company covers COVID for new policies was wrong, it seems what you actually meant was no-one provides the exact cover you want.

The best thing if you're looking at booking next year is to book a package with someone who lets you cancel, change or postpone your trip if there's FCDO advice against travel.  It sounds like you want a policy which will allow you to travel against FCDO advice and will cover you for getting COVID while away which isn't possible. 

You can buy multiple policies but be aware if you make a claim which both policies cover you for then each insurer is jointly liable e.g. if one policy says £25 per day for baggage delay and another says £75 per day, you won't get £100 per day by having two policies.  However, you could get Staysure's quarantine benefit in full from Staysure if you have Coverwise insurance as well (which doesn't have that benefit.)  

I didn't say "no other company covers you for Covid", I think you will see if you read my quote I was referring to Staysure only!   I am not looking for a company to cover me for every eventuality, I was stating the facts as they relate to Staysure, I don't know what other companies do and I didn't say I wasn't taking it because it doesn't cover me for Covid.

epm-84

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

JamoLew said:

A holiday is NOT essential travel - be prepared to be turned around

BBC: From Thursday, holidays both inside England and abroad will be banned until 2 December, as the government tries to stop a second wave of coronavirus from spreading.
Independant: Overnight stays and holidays away from primary residences will not be allowed – including holidays in the UK and abroad.

guess I can ignore all the other "advice" when I go back into work in an NHS hospital tomorrow as well then

Yey - no more mask, no more wrecked hands from washing etc - don't worry, the patients will be fine

The Foreign Office is putting out new advice Thursday morning to ban all non-essential travel, pity they are not offering a refund too on holidays booked BEFORE March !!   Easy to throw out these rules left, right and centre.   How many deaths will they have on their hands from suicides which are soaring.

For those who have booked a package or have suitable insurance banning non-essential travel is what will trigger a refund/insurance payout.

Unfortunately, those who booked flights with Ryanair and have insurance which excludes anything related to COVID-19 are screwed.

No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !

Incorrect.  Coverwise and Staysure provide some cover relating to COVID-19 but not against every possible scenario which might be related to COVID.

https://www.coverwise.co.uk/Travel-Insurance/corona-virus.aspx
https://www.staysure.co.uk/coronavirus-travel-insurance/ 

I have just been looking at Staysure for next year and it doesn't cover you for Covid whilst you are away if you go against Foreign Office Advice, even with their extra cover which falsely claims to cover you for Covid, it only covers you for BEFORE you go on your trip.  You need to read the small print.

Yes you always need to read the wording but saying no insurance company covers COVID for new policies was wrong, it seems what you actually meant was no-one provides the exact cover you want.

The best thing if you're looking at booking next year is to book a package with someone who lets you cancel, change or postpone your trip if there's FCDO advice against travel.  It sounds like you want a policy which will allow you to travel against FCDO advice and will cover you for getting COVID while away which isn't possible. 

You can buy multiple policies but be aware if you make a claim which both policies cover you for then each insurer is jointly liable e.g. if one policy says £25 per day for baggage delay and another says £75 per day, you won't get £100 per day by having two policies.  However, you could get Staysure's quarantine benefit in full from Staysure if you have Coverwise insurance as well (which doesn't have that benefit.)  

I didn't say "no other company covers you for Covid", I think you will see if you read my quote I was referring to Staysure only!   I am not looking for a company to cover me for every eventuality, I was stating the facts as they relate to Staysure, I don't know what other companies do and I didn't say I wasn't taking it because it doesn't cover me for Covid.

I did read your quote from your post yesterday, where you said

"No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !"

That's the post I replied to with links to Staysure and Coverwise on and the first time you mentioned Staysure was in response to that one.

Leodogger

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

JamoLew said:

A holiday is NOT essential travel - be prepared to be turned around

BBC: From Thursday, holidays both inside England and abroad will be banned until 2 December, as the government tries to stop a second wave of coronavirus from spreading.
Independant: Overnight stays and holidays away from primary residences will not be allowed – including holidays in the UK and abroad.

guess I can ignore all the other "advice" when I go back into work in an NHS hospital tomorrow as well then

Yey - no more mask, no more wrecked hands from washing etc - don't worry, the patients will be fine

The Foreign Office is putting out new advice Thursday morning to ban all non-essential travel, pity they are not offering a refund too on holidays booked BEFORE March !!   Easy to throw out these rules left, right and centre.   How many deaths will they have on their hands from suicides which are soaring.

For those who have booked a package or have suitable insurance banning non-essential travel is what will trigger a refund/insurance payout.

Unfortunately, those who booked flights with Ryanair and have insurance which excludes anything related to COVID-19 are screwed.

No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !

Incorrect.  Coverwise and Staysure provide some cover relating to COVID-19 but not against every possible scenario which might be related to COVID.

https://www.coverwise.co.uk/Travel-Insurance/corona-virus.aspx
https://www.staysure.co.uk/coronavirus-travel-insurance/ 

I have just been looking at Staysure for next year and it doesn't cover you for Covid whilst you are away if you go against Foreign Office Advice, even with their extra cover which falsely claims to cover you for Covid, it only covers you for BEFORE you go on your trip.  You need to read the small print.

Yes you always need to read the wording but saying no insurance company covers COVID for new policies was wrong, it seems what you actually meant was no-one provides the exact cover you want.

The best thing if you're looking at booking next year is to book a package with someone who lets you cancel, change or postpone your trip if there's FCDO advice against travel.  It sounds like you want a policy which will allow you to travel against FCDO advice and will cover you for getting COVID while away which isn't possible. 

You can buy multiple policies but be aware if you make a claim which both policies cover you for then each insurer is jointly liable e.g. if one policy says £25 per day for baggage delay and another says £75 per day, you won't get £100 per day by having two policies.  However, you could get Staysure's quarantine benefit in full from Staysure if you have Coverwise insurance as well (which doesn't have that benefit.)  

I didn't say "no other company covers you for Covid", I think you will see if you read my quote I was referring to Staysure only!   I am not looking for a company to cover me for every eventuality, I was stating the facts as they relate to Staysure, I don't know what other companies do and I didn't say I wasn't taking it because it doesn't cover me for Covid.

I did read your quote from your post yesterday, where you said

"No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !"

That's the post I replied to with links to Staysure and Coverwise on and the first time you mentioned Staysure was in response to that one.

Well you find me one company that covers you for Covid when you are on holiday if the Foreign Office advises against travelling then !

epm-84

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

JamoLew said:

A holiday is NOT essential travel - be prepared to be turned around

BBC: From Thursday, holidays both inside England and abroad will be banned until 2 December, as the government tries to stop a second wave of coronavirus from spreading.
Independant: Overnight stays and holidays away from primary residences will not be allowed – including holidays in the UK and abroad.

guess I can ignore all the other "advice" when I go back into work in an NHS hospital tomorrow as well then

Yey - no more mask, no more wrecked hands from washing etc - don't worry, the patients will be fine

The Foreign Office is putting out new advice Thursday morning to ban all non-essential travel, pity they are not offering a refund too on holidays booked BEFORE March !!   Easy to throw out these rules left, right and centre.   How many deaths will they have on their hands from suicides which are soaring.

For those who have booked a package or have suitable insurance banning non-essential travel is what will trigger a refund/insurance payout.

Unfortunately, those who booked flights with Ryanair and have insurance which excludes anything related to COVID-19 are screwed.

No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !

Incorrect.  Coverwise and Staysure provide some cover relating to COVID-19 but not against every possible scenario which might be related to COVID.

https://www.coverwise.co.uk/Travel-Insurance/corona-virus.aspx
https://www.staysure.co.uk/coronavirus-travel-insurance/ 

I have just been looking at Staysure for next year and it doesn't cover you for Covid whilst you are away if you go against Foreign Office Advice, even with their extra cover which falsely claims to cover you for Covid, it only covers you for BEFORE you go on your trip.  You need to read the small print.

Yes you always need to read the wording but saying no insurance company covers COVID for new policies was wrong, it seems what you actually meant was no-one provides the exact cover you want.

The best thing if you're looking at booking next year is to book a package with someone who lets you cancel, change or postpone your trip if there's FCDO advice against travel.  It sounds like you want a policy which will allow you to travel against FCDO advice and will cover you for getting COVID while away which isn't possible. 

You can buy multiple policies but be aware if you make a claim which both policies cover you for then each insurer is jointly liable e.g. if one policy says £25 per day for baggage delay and another says £75 per day, you won't get £100 per day by having two policies.  However, you could get Staysure's quarantine benefit in full from Staysure if you have Coverwise insurance as well (which doesn't have that benefit.)  

I didn't say "no other company covers you for Covid", I think you will see if you read my quote I was referring to Staysure only!   I am not looking for a company to cover me for every eventuality, I was stating the facts as they relate to Staysure, I don't know what other companies do and I didn't say I wasn't taking it because it doesn't cover me for Covid.

I did read your quote from your post yesterday, where you said

"No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !"

That's the post I replied to with links to Staysure and Coverwise on and the first time you mentioned Staysure was in response to that one.

Well you find me one company that covers you for Covid when you are on holiday if the Foreign Office advises against travelling then !

I found you two insurance companies which met the criteria you specified in your post yesterday.  Given you told me to read your post again when I infact read your post correctly and provided two appropriate policies in response.  Additionally, now you have now demanded I find you something else, instead of apologising for your mistake, I think I'll just add you to ignore list.  That way I won't forget how rude and ungrateful you've been and won't accidentally help you again.

Leodogger

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

JamoLew said:

A holiday is NOT essential travel - be prepared to be turned around

BBC: From Thursday, holidays both inside England and abroad will be banned until 2 December, as the government tries to stop a second wave of coronavirus from spreading.
Independant: Overnight stays and holidays away from primary residences will not be allowed – including holidays in the UK and abroad.

guess I can ignore all the other "advice" when I go back into work in an NHS hospital tomorrow as well then

Yey - no more mask, no more wrecked hands from washing etc - don't worry, the patients will be fine

The Foreign Office is putting out new advice Thursday morning to ban all non-essential travel, pity they are not offering a refund too on holidays booked BEFORE March !!   Easy to throw out these rules left, right and centre.   How many deaths will they have on their hands from suicides which are soaring.

For those who have booked a package or have suitable insurance banning non-essential travel is what will trigger a refund/insurance payout.

Unfortunately, those who booked flights with Ryanair and have insurance which excludes anything related to COVID-19 are screwed.

No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !

Incorrect.  Coverwise and Staysure provide some cover relating to COVID-19 but not against every possible scenario which might be related to COVID.

https://www.coverwise.co.uk/Travel-Insurance/corona-virus.aspx
https://www.staysure.co.uk/coronavirus-travel-insurance/ 

I have just been looking at Staysure for next year and it doesn't cover you for Covid whilst you are away if you go against Foreign Office Advice, even with their extra cover which falsely claims to cover you for Covid, it only covers you for BEFORE you go on your trip.  You need to read the small print.

Yes you always need to read the wording but saying no insurance company covers COVID for new policies was wrong, it seems what you actually meant was no-one provides the exact cover you want.

The best thing if you're looking at booking next year is to book a package with someone who lets you cancel, change or postpone your trip if there's FCDO advice against travel.  It sounds like you want a policy which will allow you to travel against FCDO advice and will cover you for getting COVID while away which isn't possible. 

You can buy multiple policies but be aware if you make a claim which both policies cover you for then each insurer is jointly liable e.g. if one policy says £25 per day for baggage delay and another says £75 per day, you won't get £100 per day by having two policies.  However, you could get Staysure's quarantine benefit in full from Staysure if you have Coverwise insurance as well (which doesn't have that benefit.)  

I didn't say "no other company covers you for Covid", I think you will see if you read my quote I was referring to Staysure only!   I am not looking for a company to cover me for every eventuality, I was stating the facts as they relate to Staysure, I don't know what other companies do and I didn't say I wasn't taking it because it doesn't cover me for Covid.

I did read your quote from your post yesterday, where you said

"No insurance company covers you for any items relating to Covid unless you took it out before the pandemic hit us !"

That's the post I replied to with links to Staysure and Coverwise on and the first time you mentioned Staysure was in response to that one.

Well you find me one company that covers you for Covid when you are on holiday if the Foreign Office advises against travelling then !

I found you two insurance companies which met the criteria you specified in your post yesterday.  Given you told me to read your post again when I infact read your post correctly and provided two appropriate policies in response.  Additionally, now you have now demanded I find you something else, instead of apologising for your mistake, I think I'll just add you to ignore list.  That way I won't forget how rude and ungrateful you've been and won't accidentally help you again.

If you did I apologise as I  have missed many replies as I have only just started to use this new forum and couldn't find out how to get replies to my email account!   I didn't mean to be ungrateful, just didn't see your previous replies.

sheramber

Well you find me one company that covers you for Covid when you are on holiday if the Foreign Office advises against travelling then !
Battleface will although covid cover is only up to age 59.

Ajay55

Due to fly on holiday on Sunday 8th Nov.  Contacted Ryanair yesterday to ask to move flight to New date free as per adverts and told that as flight is within 7 day fees apply even if its against law for me to fly.. Ryanair will not cancel flight and insist I pay difference, which I expected plus £35 fee each way and that the £25 luggage fee I paid on this flight can't transfer and I have to pay it again so £120 fees because flight is within 7 days..  Please can anyone offer advice?