PPC chasing old invoices

fueboy

Castle said:

fueboy said:

Castle said:

Redx said:

Whilst the topic may be complicated , being told what to do and doing it is not , just do as you are told and assume that a court claim will follow and plan accordingly

I think Capital may now be a different company , so check and find their details so you can email a SAR to the correct company and person

I would try an email to the info@ address and tell them to pass it on to their DPO

Also ensure that all parties have your correct and current address

Nobody told you to speak to anyone , writing only !! No speaking or listening

Indeed there's a Capital Car Park Control Ltd, (Company number 12832321), which was incorporated on 24th August 2020, but of course it cannot buy the "debts" from "Capital Car Park Control", which remains as a Sole trader.

My invoice were before 2020, does this make a difference? Of they can't buy debts for the previous company then the "debt" doesn't exist anymore, if the original company is no longer operating?

The (potential) "debt" still exists but any court claim will have to be issued by the Sole Trader, not by the new company. (There is no original company; just a Sole Trader).

Would it be possible to put this in layman's terms for me please? 😬
PM if it's easier, thanks!

fueboy

I'm adding the correspondences from the landowners for context: 

Le_Kirk

fueboy said:

I am ready to email CCPC with the 2 letters but I cannot find an email address for DBCL, just a contact form where they would call me back.
Does anybody know where I should email the erasure of old address letter to DBCL?
Edit: also, do I need to show ID to both to erase old address?

You don't need to contact DCBL, you just tell CCPC in your letter advising them of your new Address for Service, that you require them to inform ALL of their agents of the change.  You cannot use your current V5C as proof of ID because CCPC will have no record of your latest car.  You will have to use council tax bill or utility bill for your present address.

fueboy

All emails sent, with council tax bill and utility bill for the SAR. Thanks for the assistance all.
I remember appealing via POPLA with this company for my first ever invoice and won due to them not providing evidence. I suspect they don't have any/enough to proceed but we shall see.

fueboy

So I've been going over letters received from CCPC.

The first PCN and NTK were 79 days apart, therefore the keeper has no liability I believe?

Second was 57 days apart and third just 34 days apart so these are the only two I'm concerned about at this stage.

If the NTK arrives late, this does not make the PCN 'void' but it means there is 'no keeper liability' possible.

If they are a firm which alleges 'keeper liability' under the POFA 2012 (which they don't have to!) the a postal PCN must arrive by day 14 if there was no windscreen ticket.

Or, the NTK must arrive with you between day 29 and day 57 if there was a windscreen PCN.

Then, after searching on another forum, another driver has a letter from them stating they are non POFA company (http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=134107#entry1562440)

Umkomaas

Then, after searching on another forum, another driver has a letter from them stating they are non POFA company (http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=134107#entry1562440)

I don't think there's any category of a 'non PoFA company', rather they are a company who, for whatever (mysterious) reason, choose only to pursue the actual driver of the vehicle, whereas with a few easy boxes ticked, they could increase their chances of success by using PoFA to pursue the keeper. 

If they don't know who the driver was, they have a steeper hill to climb, especially if the keeper can prove that they were not the driver on the day. Having more than one person named on the insurance policy helps matters for the keeper too, but in any court case, the keeper has to be ready to answer truthfully a question which might be put to them by the Judge, 'Were you the driver on the date(s) in question?'  

fueboy

Aalso had confirmation CCPC have erased my previous address. Just awaiting a reply from the SAR request 👍

KeithP

Thank you for posting that image.
Interesting to see the selection of logos at the bottom of that letter.

By displaying the logos, I note that DCBL claim to be an Accredited Operator of the IPC and an Approved Operator of the BPA.

I can see that they are indeed in the BPA's Approved Operator Scheme.
However, they are not a member of the IPC's Accredited Operator Scheme.
Is a company even allowed to be a member of both the AOSs?

I wonder how many of those other logos should not be there?

I do note that DCBL are members of the IPC's Accredited Service Provider Scheme, so perhaps it is just a simple mistake of showing the wrong logo.  

We all know simple mistakes where private parking companies are involved can be costly. 

D_P_Dance

I agree with keith, I would complain to all of them, the grammar is appalling.

fueboy

Although my SAR request clearly stated to pass the email onto the Data Protection Officer, they sent this:

I'm guessing I should send it to the gdpr email and start the 30 day wait from this day?

They didn't have that email address on their website and the Privacy Policy page wasn't even clickable! 🙄