Puncture repair - DIY

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I have joined a few forums , there is always a reason behind it though, different for each forum.  Guessing you were looking for How to do a DIY puncture repair, or maybe not

Mr_Spoon

williamgriffin said:

sweetsand said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

The posters "qualifications" forum poster.
If anyone else reads this thread, I strongly recommend you use a respected tyre repair site as a blow ouw can injure, kill others and if the tyre was repaired when it should not have been repaired the police will find out.

I know you can't answer this but if the plug blows out how will the police find out?

I'm fairly certain that if there was a serious accident (possibly involving serious injuries or even fatalities), then an investigation would be carried out and this would be uncovered. Where that would leave you legally or from an insurance point of view, who knows, but I wouldn't like to be that guy.

Anyway, it just seems bizarre to me that anyone would be taking a defensive position on this and be willing to take any kind of risk for such a measly amount of money. Maybe the need to be seen as being 'right' is overriding common sense...

EdGasketTheSecond

Well it is not a measly amount of money if you have to throw away a new tyre because the technique used by tyre repairers mean they can't repair it. Most times I've tried to get a puncture repaired they whistle through their teeth and say ' oh can't repair that mate, too near the centre', then next time it's ' too near the edge'. Just want to sell me another tyre.

Mr_Spoon

EdGasketTheSecond said:

Well it is not a measly amount of money if you have to throw away a new tyre because the technique used by tyre repairers mean they can't repair it. Most times I've tried to get a puncture repaired they whistle through their teeth and say ' oh can't repair that mate, too near the centre', then next time it's ' too near the edge'. Just want to sell me another tyre.

That's a different scenario though i.e. you're being told your puncture can't be repaired properly (to BS Standards) and you can always get multiple opinions if you think you're being ripped off for a new tyre. If all garages say the same thing, maybe it's true? But are you suggesting it's better to run around with a dangerously plugged tyre just to save money buying a new one?

sweetsand

Mr_Spoon said:

sweetsand said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

OK - thanks for that (seemingly) unbiased evidence. Thanks for also confirming that vehicle manufacturers who sell vehicles in the UK without a spare and only supply Liquid Sealants (item d in the quoted list) are doing so in breach of British Standards. It seems I'm in good company then ... my advice is equally unsound as the vehicles supplied by global vehicle manufacturers.

PS - I never professed to have any qualification in this area, and have never promoted myself as having such qualifications. That was just your own fevered imagination.

No, the point being (for the third or fourth time, I've lost count now) is that these plugs, gels etc are only intended as a 'temporary' repair i.e. to get you to the garage to get a 'permanent' repair done. I'm fairly sure if you phoned any car manufacturer and asked them if their supplied liquid sealants are supposed to be used as a permanent solution then they would say no (typically around 100 miles is the maximum recommendation).

Anyway, if you're happy to take risks with your (and your passengers) lives, and possibly be invalidating your insurance at the same time, then feel free. I just don't think that you should be giving out potentially dangerous advice from a position of ignorance.

Mr Spoon, if it was only their lives they put at risk I could not honestly care but when someone has a blow out, its the ones they crash into that I am concerned about or the passengers they carry who a non the wiser. Yes, if a tyre is repaired that should not be, and you have a crash and the police, insurance find out, you get what you did.

That's also a very good point. As I've said before, bad advice from a position of ignorance can be very dangerous, especially when it concerns a 1+ ton vehicle travelling at high speed on public roads. It's not like giving out advice about how to mend a hole in your socks.   

Thank you. Indeed a position of ignorance can be very dangerous but thankfully the police do not accept ignorance as an excuse. We knew a road traffic police officer and they told us that when there was a major accident involing injuries or worse to people and caused by a possible blow out they would check the condition of the tyres, cars and who made the tyre etc date tyre made and any repairs and especially illeage reapirs EG shoulder/side wall repairs, etc. It's just not worth risking the live of others with a dangerous repair or using a temp repair permanetly.

sweetsand

eoh1958 said:

Forgive me, I'm new to this forum and was wondering if this thread is reflective of normal discussion on here?
Professional qualifications and legislation aside, are posters seriously advocating DIY puncture repair as a viable long term option when you can simply go to the local garage and pay the apprentice mechanic a nominal fee toward his weekend beer fund?
I'm all for DIY and saving a few bob but sounds like madness to me considering the consequences should something go wrong.
Food for thought regarding some of the "advice" to be found on here.

A very good post that is again highlight the massive dangers of  diy reapirs and/or using them permanet repairs and repairing tyres when you don't even know what can and can't be repaired for safety reasons.
As I said before, no one wants to pay 20/30 quid for a repair but see yourself luck you don't need a new tyre but if one required then sobeit but a diy repair or a repair that is not legal can cause massive problems. You are travelling in a 2.5 tonne machine at 70mph and imagine a blow out due to a faulty and/or illegal repair.

onlyfoolsandparking

sweetsand said:

eoh1958 said:

Forgive me, I'm new to this forum and was wondering if this thread is reflective of normal discussion on here?
Professional qualifications and legislation aside, are posters seriously advocating DIY puncture repair as a viable long term option when you can simply go to the local garage and pay the apprentice mechanic a nominal fee toward his weekend beer fund?
I'm all for DIY and saving a few bob but sounds like madness to me considering the consequences should something go wrong.
Food for thought regarding some of the "advice" to be found on here.

A very good post that is again highlight the massive dangers of  diy reapirs and/or using them permanet repairs and repairing tyres when you don't even know what can and can't be repaired for safety reasons.
As I said before, no one wants to pay 20/30 quid for a repair but see yourself luck you don't need a new tyre but if one required then sobeit but a diy repair or a repair that is not legal can cause massive problems. You are travelling in a 2.5 tonne machine at 70mph and imagine a blow out due to a faulty and/or illegal repair.

What if you were travelling in a 1 tonne machine at 30mph, would that be ok?

EdGasketTheSecond

Not many cars are 2.5T

williamgriffin

Mr_Spoon said:

williamgriffin said:

sweetsand said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

The posters "qualifications" forum poster.
If anyone else reads this thread, I strongly recommend you use a respected tyre repair site as a blow ouw can injure, kill others and if the tyre was repaired when it should not have been repaired the police will find out.

I know you can't answer this but if the plug blows out how will the police find out?

I'm fairly certain that if there was a serious accident (possibly involving serious injuries or even fatalities), then an investigation would be carried out and this would be uncovered. Where that would leave you legally or from an insurance point of view, who knows, but I wouldn't like to be that guy.

Anyway, it just seems bizarre to me that anyone would be taking a defensive position on this and be willing to take any kind of risk for such a measly amount of money. Maybe the need to be seen as being 'right' is overriding common sense...

If the plug has blown out how do you know one was there on the first place.

EdGasketTheSecond

I've had 'professionally' repaired tyres go down without warning. The one I repaired myself lasted the life of the tyre on a Mercedes C series; about 30K miles.