Puncture repair - DIY

EdGasketTheSecond

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Kwik Fit et al will not guarantee a puncture repair. And what they do (with the vulcanised rubber plugs) is not far removed from using the tar strings. So there's no real benefit in paying them £27 for a single repair when you can pay £10 for a kit that will do 10+ repairs.

I'll continue to do my own repairs, thank you. (As long as the puncture is in a repairable area ... there is no such thing as a proper sidewall puncture repair).

Edit: I responded originally to Sandra ( ) but she deleted her post and then posted it again, so my comment here looks out of sequence.

Tar strings are something you might use on something like a motorbike/scooter as a temporary measure. I certainly wouldn't recommend them as a long term puncture repair on a car.

Why not? They are used in cars and vans. A motorbike rider is much more vulnerable in a blow out than a car driver so your post does not stack up.

Mr_Spoon

EdGasketTheSecond said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Kwik Fit et al will not guarantee a puncture repair. And what they do (with the vulcanised rubber plugs) is not far removed from using the tar strings. So there's no real benefit in paying them £27 for a single repair when you can pay £10 for a kit that will do 10+ repairs.

I'll continue to do my own repairs, thank you. (As long as the puncture is in a repairable area ... there is no such thing as a proper sidewall puncture repair).

Edit: I responded originally to Sandra ( ) but she deleted her post and then posted it again, so my comment here looks out of sequence.

Tar strings are something you might use on something like a motorbike/scooter as a temporary measure. I certainly wouldn't recommend them as a long term puncture repair on a car.

Why not? They are used in cars and vans. A motorbike rider is much more vulnerable in a blow out than a car driver so your post does not stack up.

Recommended for smaller tyres carrying less weight, and only as an emergency/temporary measure (get you home type of thing). Just because people use them on cars and vans, doesn't mean it's right.

EdGasketTheSecond

Doesnt mean you are right either. Where is your evidence? Have you actually used them or are you just an armchair mechanic with clean hands?

Mr_Spoon

EdGasketTheSecond said:

Doesnt mean you are right either. Where is your evidence? Have you actually used them or are you just an armchair mechanic with clean hands?

Don't just take my word for it, take the word of the TIA (as one example of many). I don't think they are classed as 'armchair mechanics'.

https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-maintenance/tire-repair#:~:text=Many%20times%2C%20a%20simple%20object,and%20must%20be%20considered%20temporary.&text=Not%20all%20tires%20can%20be%20repaired.

"Therefore, on-the-wheel wheel repairs like string plugs are not recommended and must be considered temporary".

DoaM

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Kwik Fit et al will not guarantee a puncture repair. And what they do (with the vulcanised rubber plugs) is not far removed from using the tar strings. So there's no real benefit in paying them £27 for a single repair when you can pay £10 for a kit that will do 10+ repairs.

I'll continue to do my own repairs, thank you. (As long as the puncture is in a repairable area ... there is no such thing as a proper sidewall puncture repair).

Edit: I responded originally to Sandra ( ) but she deleted her post and then posted it again, so my comment here looks out of sequence.

Tar strings are something you might use on something like a motorbike/scooter as a temporary measure. I certainly wouldn't recommend them as a long term puncture repair on a car.

I see your recommendation and raise you 40k+ miles life out of a tyre repaired using tar string on a Golf GT 2.0Tdi 140PS. I had a nail in my front tyre 2 weeks after getting that car brand new. I repaired it using tar string. The wheels were rotated at the 1st service. The repair was still working fine when I eventually had to replace the (full set of) tyres at 44k miles.

DoaM

Mr_Spoon said:

EdGasketTheSecond said:

Doesnt mean you are right either. Where is your evidence? Have you actually used them or are you just an armchair mechanic with clean hands?

Don't just take my word for it, take the word of the TIA (as one example of many). I don't think they are classed as 'armchair mechanics'.

https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-maintenance/tire-repair#:~:text=Many%20times%2C%20a%20simple%20object,and%20must%20be%20considered%20temporary.&text=Not%20all%20tires%20can%20be%20repaired.

"Therefore, on-the-wheel wheel repairs like string plugs are not recommended and must be considered temporary".

That's a US website, and also one for the tyre industry ... it's to their benefit to dissuade people from repairing tyres. 🙄

Mr_Spoon

DoaM said:

Mr_Spoon said:

EdGasketTheSecond said:

Doesnt mean you are right either. Where is your evidence? Have you actually used them or are you just an armchair mechanic with clean hands?

Don't just take my word for it, take the word of the TIA (as one example of many). I don't think they are classed as 'armchair mechanics'.

https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-maintenance/tire-repair#:~:text=Many%20times%2C%20a%20simple%20object,and%20must%20be%20considered%20temporary.&text=Not%20all%20tires%20can%20be%20repaired.

"Therefore, on-the-wheel wheel repairs like string plugs are not recommended and must be considered temporary".

That's a US website, and also one for the tyre industry ... it's to their benefit to dissuade people from repairing tyres. 🙄

Are you a qualified mechanic/tyre fitter? If not, then I would caution against giving out advice in an area where bad advice could cause serious accidents. The "It hasn't happened to me" to me defence doesn't really make it any less dangerous. 

Here is advice from a 'UK' site if it helps you, and what exactly would their ulterior motive be for 'strongly' recommending that tyre strings are only used as a temporary replacement and only for small (non-passenger carrying) vehicles? 

https://www.tyrebaydirect.com/product-category/tyre-consumables/repair-materials-chemicals-sealants/repair-string/

"Universal Repair String is a fast repair solution but is an emergency and temporary puncture repair seal only. Repair string is an ideal solution for tyres with small punctures and for vehicles such as ATV’s, golf carts and lawn mowers and on radial and bias tyres only".

"Please note: Repair string is not to be used for passenger vehicle repairs. We also strongly recommend that the tyre be demounted and inspected as soon as possible and be replaced with a more permanent puncture repair solution such as a patch or patch plug".

DoaM

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Mr_Spoon

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

Mercdriver

Looks like the sand family is out in force