Puncture repair - DIY

cajef

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

We will take that as a no then.

DoaM

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

I don't need to. You're the one saying "Don't Do It", so it's incumbent on you to prove your point.  

Mr_Spoon

DoaM said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

I don't need to. You're the one saying "Don't Do It", so it's incumbent on you to prove your point.  

Ah ok, you have no qualifications then. Thought so.
Your argument is a bit like saying "my car mechanic told me if I didn't get the engine repair done then my car would catch fire and possibly kill me, but I'm not going to Iisten to him because he's clearly got a financial interest in doing repairs to my car". 
All things considered, I think I prefer take my car safety advice from experts in the industry, even ones with vested interests.

Mr_Spoon

Even the British Standards (AU 159 - British Standard For Tyre Repairs) don't cover this type of repair and refer to it as a temporary solution (they're British and don't sell tyres by the way). I'd also wonder where this would leave your insurance situation in the event of an accident. And all to save £27...

This British Standard is not applicable to:
a) tyres designed for use on pre-1933 vehicles, as their design and construction can be unique and outside the range of tyres in current use;
b) T-type temporary use spare tyres;
c) temporary seals, i.e. externally inserted plugs, intended to allow the vehicle to be driven for a limited period, until a permanent repair can be effected
d) use of liquid sealants introduced into tubed or tubeless tyres to aid the air retention property (see Clause 9);
e) tyres containing sealant gel; and
f) specialist repairs carried out by the original tyre manufacturer
https://www.itia.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/British-Standards-for-Tyre-Repair.pdf

DoaM

OK - thanks for that (seemingly) unbiased evidence. Thanks for also confirming that vehicle manufacturers who sell vehicles in the UK without a spare and only supply Liquid Sealants (item d in the quoted list) are doing so in breach of British Standards. It seems I'm in good company then ... my advice is equally unsound as the vehicles supplied by global vehicle manufacturers.

PS - I never professed to have any qualification in this area, and have never promoted myself as having such qualifications. That was just your own fevered imagination.

Mr_Spoon

DoaM said:

OK - thanks for that (seemingly) unbiased evidence. Thanks for also confirming that vehicle manufacturers who sell vehicles in the UK without a spare and only supply Liquid Sealants (item d in the quoted list) are doing so in breach of British Standards. It seems I'm in good company then ... my advice is equally unsound as the vehicles supplied by global vehicle manufacturers.

PS - I never professed to have any qualification in this area, and have never promoted myself as having such qualifications. That was just your own fevered imagination.

No, the point being (for the third or fourth time, I've lost count now) is that these plugs, gels etc are only intended as a 'temporary' repair i.e. to get you to the garage to get a 'permanent' repair done. I'm fairly sure if you phoned any car manufacturer and asked them if their supplied liquid sealants are supposed to be used as a permanent solution then they would say no (typically around 100 miles is the maximum recommendation).

Anyway, if you're happy to take risks with your (and your passengers) lives, and possibly be invalidating your insurance at the same time, then feel free. I just don't think that you should be giving out potentially dangerous advice from a position of ignorance.

sweetsand

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

The posters "qualifications" forum poster.
If anyone else reads this thread, I strongly recommend you use a respected tyre repair site as a blow ouw can injure, kill others and if the tyre was repaired when it should not have been repaired the police will find out.

DoaM

Boom! There it is ... the insurance wild card. I was wondering when that would get played.

Source to support that assertion please?

Mercdriver

DoaM said:

Boom! There it is ... the insurance wild card. I was wondering when that would get played.

Source to support that assertion please?

Here comes Sandmen...

DoaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384 ??