Puncture repair - DIY

Mr_Spoon

DoaM said:

Boom! There it is ... the insurance wild card. I was wondering when that would get played.

Source to support that assertion please?

No source, hence my use of terms such as "I'd also wonder where this would leave your insurance situation in the event of an accident" and "possibly be invalidating your insurance at the same time". Please keep up.

Hardly seems a massive leap to suggest that an insurance company might look at the fact you were driving round with a temporary home made puncture repair just before your accident, but I'm sure it's worth the risk to save £27 (if you shop around you can get it done cheaper in other places by the way).

sweetsand

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

OK - thanks for that (seemingly) unbiased evidence. Thanks for also confirming that vehicle manufacturers who sell vehicles in the UK without a spare and only supply Liquid Sealants (item d in the quoted list) are doing so in breach of British Standards. It seems I'm in good company then ... my advice is equally unsound as the vehicles supplied by global vehicle manufacturers.

PS - I never professed to have any qualification in this area, and have never promoted myself as having such qualifications. That was just your own fevered imagination.

No, the point being (for the third or fourth time, I've lost count now) is that these plugs, gels etc are only intended as a 'temporary' repair i.e. to get you to the garage to get a 'permanent' repair done. I'm fairly sure if you phoned any car manufacturer and asked them if their supplied liquid sealants are supposed to be used as a permanent solution then they would say no (typically around 100 miles is the maximum recommendation).

Anyway, if you're happy to take risks with your (and your passengers) lives, and possibly be invalidating your insurance at the same time, then feel free. I just don't think that you should be giving out potentially dangerous advice from a position of ignorance.

Mr Spoon, if it was only their lives they put at risk I could not honestly care but when someone has a blow out, its the ones they crash into that I am concerned about or the passengers they carry who a non the wiser. Yes, if a tyre is repaired that should not be, and you have a crash and the police, insurance find out, you get what you did.

eoh1958

Forgive me, I'm new to this forum and was wondering if this thread is reflective of normal discussion on here?
Professional qualifications and legislation aside, are posters seriously advocating DIY puncture repair as a viable long term option when you can simply go to the local garage and pay the apprentice mechanic a nominal fee toward his weekend beer fund?
I'm all for DIY and saving a few bob but sounds like madness to me considering the consequences should something go wrong.
Food for thought regarding some of the "advice" to be found on here.

Mr_Spoon

sweetsand said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

OK - thanks for that (seemingly) unbiased evidence. Thanks for also confirming that vehicle manufacturers who sell vehicles in the UK without a spare and only supply Liquid Sealants (item d in the quoted list) are doing so in breach of British Standards. It seems I'm in good company then ... my advice is equally unsound as the vehicles supplied by global vehicle manufacturers.

PS - I never professed to have any qualification in this area, and have never promoted myself as having such qualifications. That was just your own fevered imagination.

No, the point being (for the third or fourth time, I've lost count now) is that these plugs, gels etc are only intended as a 'temporary' repair i.e. to get you to the garage to get a 'permanent' repair done. I'm fairly sure if you phoned any car manufacturer and asked them if their supplied liquid sealants are supposed to be used as a permanent solution then they would say no (typically around 100 miles is the maximum recommendation).

Anyway, if you're happy to take risks with your (and your passengers) lives, and possibly be invalidating your insurance at the same time, then feel free. I just don't think that you should be giving out potentially dangerous advice from a position of ignorance.

Mr Spoon, if it was only their lives they put at risk I could not honestly care but when someone has a blow out, its the ones they crash into that I am concerned about or the passengers they carry who a non the wiser. Yes, if a tyre is repaired that should not be, and you have a crash and the police, insurance find out, you get what you did.

That's also a very good point. As I've said before, bad advice from a position of ignorance can be very dangerous, especially when it concerns a 1+ ton vehicle travelling at high speed on public roads. It's not like giving out advice about how to mend a hole in your socks.   

williamgriffin

sweetsand said:

Mr_Spoon said:

DoaM said:

Can you find such an article from someone who does not have a vested interest in avoiding repairs as it can impact on tyre sales?

Only if you tell me your qualifications in this area that entitles you to give out advice.

The posters "qualifications" forum poster.
If anyone else reads this thread, I strongly recommend you use a respected tyre repair site as a blow ouw can injure, kill others and if the tyre was repaired when it should not have been repaired the police will find out.

I know you can't answer this but if the plug blows out how will the police find out?

eoh1958

Mercdriver said:

eoh1958 said:

Forgive me, I'm new to this forum and was wondering if this thread is reflective of normal discussion on here?
Professional qualifications and legislation aside, are posters seriously advocating DIY puncture repair as a viable long term option when you can simply go to the local garage and pay the apprentice mechanic a nominal fee toward his weekend beer fund?
I'm all for DIY and saving a few bob but sounds like madness to me considering the consequences should something go wrong.
Food for thought regarding some of the "advice" to be found on here.

You're new, yet you are able to make a judgement about quality of advice on the whole of the motoring side of the forum.  I've got an itchy chin.  Must be from when I was on my local beach.  That sand seems to get everywhere.

A rather rude response.

I was not passing judgement, merely making a statement that going by the content of this thread I would be mindful regarding advice on other threads.  But if it makes you feel better to belittle posters who disagree with you and/or have a low post count then fair enough.

DoaM

This is a forum ... people will have different opinions. Others can accept or reject my (and others) advice as they wish. Nobody here has professed to be an expert on this subject matter (to my knowledge).

photome

eoh1958 said:

Mercdriver said:

eoh1958 said:

Forgive me, I'm new to this forum and was wondering if this thread is reflective of normal discussion on here?
Professional qualifications and legislation aside, are posters seriously advocating DIY puncture repair as a viable long term option when you can simply go to the local garage and pay the apprentice mechanic a nominal fee toward his weekend beer fund?
I'm all for DIY and saving a few bob but sounds like madness to me considering the consequences should something go wrong.
Food for thought regarding some of the "advice" to be found on here.

You're new, yet you are able to make a judgement about quality of advice on the whole of the motoring side of the forum.  I've got an itchy chin.  Must be from when I was on my local beach.  That sand seems to get everywhere.

A rather rude response.

I was not passing judgement, merely making a statement that going by the content of this thread I would be mindful regarding advice on other threads.  But if it makes you feel better to belittle posters who disagree with you and/or have a low post count then fair enough.

Can I ask what prompted you to join MSE today and then find and comment on this particular thread

onlyfoolsandparking

I,m looking to mend a few pairs of socks after having a run of bad luck recently, can anybody help?

eoh1958

photome said:

eoh1958 said:

Mercdriver said:

eoh1958 said:

Forgive me, I'm new to this forum and was wondering if this thread is reflective of normal discussion on here?
Professional qualifications and legislation aside, are posters seriously advocating DIY puncture repair as a viable long term option when you can simply go to the local garage and pay the apprentice mechanic a nominal fee toward his weekend beer fund?
I'm all for DIY and saving a few bob but sounds like madness to me considering the consequences should something go wrong.
Food for thought regarding some of the "advice" to be found on here.

You're new, yet you are able to make a judgement about quality of advice on the whole of the motoring side of the forum.  I've got an itchy chin.  Must be from when I was on my local beach.  That sand seems to get everywhere.

A rather rude response.

I was not passing judgement, merely making a statement that going by the content of this thread I would be mindful regarding advice on other threads.  But if it makes you feel better to belittle posters who disagree with you and/or have a low post count then fair enough.

Can I ask what prompted you to join MSE today and then find and comment on this particular thread

Presumably the same reasons anyone joins a forum and finds something to post about.

I was unaware there is a criteria for doing so. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction. No need to be defensive