Old Style Weight Loss 2020 - Part 2

tighteningthebelt

Morning all! 
Reporting a STS for last week. Was hoping for better but we are where we are! I'm still being very strict with my intake so the weight should catch up with itself! Yesterday was a very typical day. I had nothing at breakfast. Lunch at about 13.30 was a corn on the cob🌽 (without butter) and a banana🍌. Afternoon snack about 16.00 was an orange 🍊and a slice of bread 🍞with marmite. Teatime at 20.00 was 2 grilled sausages, about 1 cup mustard mash🥔, lots of broccoli 🥦and carrots🥕, pudding was ¼ honeydew melon🍉 with ginger. No supper. All intake within a 6-7 hour window. It's very rare that I cheat myself as I dont have snack food in the house to tempt me. I just dont see where I can improve on that!! I'm very restricted on the amount of exercise I can do as I have a long term disability so I have to work the intake side of the equation very hard. 
I was pondering on the fast 800 diet, has anyone had any experience of that? Is it worth buying the book? I'm kind of thinking if it's just 'time restricted eating with a max of 800 calories of healthy food' then that's just one sentence so it's not worth the money!!
More health appts this week, and next, things are dragging on in that department. 
Have a nice day everyone. 🌼 

roundtuit

Morning xx

Well I'll be blowed. I stepped on the scales to make sure they were heading in the right direction again and if today was WI day I'd be a sts for the week and not a +4! I had to step off and step back on again as I thought I was seeing things. It bodes well for my next WI though and has cheered me up no end. 

Have a good week. Stay safe.
Rxx

Blue_Doggy

Good morning, ttb, I’m really sorry to read that you’re struggling. <<Hugs>>  I think it was towards the end of last year you were doing really well, so well that you were talking about going to maintenance. Would it help to ask:
What has changed since then? 

And, if it’s changed, are you able to get back to the way you ate etc. then?

 

Just looking at what you posted for yesterday’s food, it seems quite high in carbs, are you at all sensitive to them? I haven’t tried the Fast 800 diet: I looked at the book in the Library and decided it wasn’t for me, so I can’t comment on how it would be for you, but I think other posters in this thread do or have followed it.
 

Don’t forget that if you don’t eat enough your metabolism will drop to conserve energy. And muscle weighs more than fat, so if you’ve built up muscle that may be affecting your weight, too.

I’m not a nutritionist so don’t want to get any deeper in to this, deffo not advice but things you may want to look into. 
 
I hope you’ll have a better week this week, and your health problems will get sorted quickly  .

monnagran

Morning all.

Blue, just speak severely to your mind.  Of course you deserve to be slim, we all do.  I don't know what your mind thinks its up to, but you come across as being kind, funny, intelligent, caring and interesting.  The sort of person who I would love to have as a friend in RL.  You need to try a bit of self-love.  Seriously, you are worth so much more than you are giving yourself credit for.  I don't know who has ever made you think that you don't deserve to be slim, but whoever it was, I would like to give them a high five.  In the face.  With a chair.  (I read that somewhere and have been dying to use it.)

TTB,  Don't waste your money.  You have summed up the fast 800 calorie diet in a few words.  You seem to be doing that already.  In fact I'm wondering if you are eating enough, although I see that in your circumstances you would have to be doubly careful.  Just keep on keeping on.  When you think of the complicated processes our poor bodies have to go through to transform our stubborn layers of fat into usable energy and thence send it off into the wide blue yonder, its no wonder that it doesn't conform to our expectations of a neat 1lb weight loss, on the dot, weekly.  Witness Roundtuit's unexpected  disappearance of 4lbs.  Jammy beggar! 

I'm remaining schtumm about my own efforts.  Having all this extra snacky food around and doing all this extra cooking for my fence painter is doing me no good at all.  I know what you mean about not having tempting food around when you live on your own TTB.  It does help, doesn't it?

Molly41

Hello x
Tighteningthebelt - I agree with Brambling you have to eat enough to keep your metabolism going else it goes into starvation mode.
Dumpling - i understand totally I have eaten too much as Im anxious about my test results too xx
Well Im hoping for two good days as i need to WI on Wednesday as its time to give my GP my weight and BMI. Im fearing the worst though as Ive had to up my steroids as have been on sick days and eating much more - I have put the veg chips out of my line of sight - although I just can't resist raspberries and cream! Its the first time Ive been able to eat them for about 5 years as i had my bowel resection last year so now can. They are yummy and you got to have a dot of double cream!!!

Good luck for this week love and hugs xxx

Brambling

Old Style Weight Loss Challenge 2020 - 2nd Quarter

01/04/20 - 30/06/20

Imperial (lbs) please let me know if you want me to add a kg list as well

Aimeemum 12/17   /   
Black_Saturn 5/14  /  /  /STS  /  /  / STS
Blue Doggy   3/14. STS.  /  /  / STS /STS /    / / STS / / STS
Brambling. 3/10  STS /  /    /   / /STS / STS /  /  /   
Cranky 4/7. STS /  /STS / STS /   /  
ditty1234  6/5.  /  /  /    /STS / STS / /    /    / 
Dumpling 11/14  / /   
Frith -/21 
General_Grant 0 /7  /   
Gingerlily 11/6   / /   
Honeythewitch 4/5    /   
Izadora +3/14.  /  / STS / /   /  /  / STS /STS
Jimali -/10
Jules81 6/20.  /   
Molly41 14/14   /   /    /  /  /  /  /  /   
Mistergazpacho -/7
monnagran 6/6.  /  /  /  / STS /  /  /  /   / STS
Roundtuit 6/9 / /  / STS / 
SIRENS  3.5/14  STS /  /   /  /  /    / STS  /STS /STS /STS
Short_bird  +0.5/6   
Snowbird20 12/30  /   
Supersaver1000  6/10  /   /  /  /  /  / /STS /  
tigheningthebelt 7.5/10.  /  /STS / /  /STS /STS /  /  /    /  / STS
Zafiro1984   5/20. /   
Zippy 9.5/8   /    / 

General_Grant

@tighteningthebelt   - I've given up buying diet books - have a library of such literature.  I was looking at one yesterday which I'd had since the 1990s and I don't suppose they have changed much in the last 30 years.  It must have been >98% about how awful any other diet is compared with whatever their secret is and what has been achieved by the author and their clients.  In fact, for that book, I gave up trying to find the secret.  What I eventually found worked was Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin - and then it was actually using the accompanying CD, not so much the book itself.  I found I began not walking down the chocolate aisle because I was not the sort of person who was interested.  I do still have chocolate - but the last time was three days ago when I had a single biscuit containing dark chocolate.

Shopping yesterday afternoon led me to buying a twin pack of Bonne Maman blackcurrant mousse (whole blackcurrants, delicious).  Demolished one when I got home and the second in the evening.  However I also deviated from the planned dinner and so calorie total was 1644, only 200 more than planned.

Today's plan:
B - coffee, breakfast cereals, semi-skimmed milk, peach
M - coffee, Kourkoubini
L - chicken and veg salad with Thai sauce
A - cereal bar, Sarsaparilla drink
D - sunflower seed bread, Brie, prune juice
(1512 calories)

Gingerlily

Hi , 

Well done losers and sts. That’s a fantastic loss roundtuit.

Today’s menu is/will be

Breakfast: peanut butter overnight oats, Greek yoghurt, raspberries. Coffee with cream

Lunch: chicken, gravy, broccoli and cauliflower

Dinner: greek salad, chocolate creamy pudding. 

Evening snack: milk chocolate

Take care all.

I did that diet intermittently last year tighteningthebelt and am doing a modified version of it now. It is not for everyone, it’s lowish carb ( not as low as those keto diets ) Mediterranean style around 800 calories a day sometimes more sometimes less if you follow the menu plan. I’m not quite 4ft 11 so 800 calories isn’t such a big reduction for me from my sedentary metabolic requirements when I’m not dieting. I imagine it to be harder for someone who’s usual calorie requirements are the average 2000 a day. Last year I did suffer a bit initially when I gave up sugar and processed carbs but this year I didn’t have those side effects, I was only back onto excessive sugar and carbs for a couple of months during my meltdown when I constantly comfort munched and regained a lot in that short time.

There are a few days where you do get healthy carbs such as oats for breakfast or a slice of rye or wholemeal bread at lunch or a small serving of wholewheat pasta at dinner, but only one meal a day if I remember and not everyday.  The vast majority of carbs come from vegetables/ fruits and legumes/ pulses. As it’s lowish carb you are supposed to burn fat instead of carbs. You get quite a few of your calories from healthy fats like avocado and olive oil. He suggests different ways to follow it, 5:2, 2:5, intermittent dieting with breaks in between, or the very fast method where you stay on around 800 calories a day for 12 weeks.

In the paperback book there are chapters on why we put on weight, a chapter on intermittent fasting where he explains different methods of that, 5:2, periodic and time restricted eating which is how he describes what you’re currently doing. There are also chapters on the case for rapid weight loss, why he loves the Mediterranean diet, getting active, ways to beat stress, the diet in practice, supersize me, then about 80 pages of recipes with calorie counts but no carb counts and suggestions for add ins if you are doing 5:2 for non fast days, then a 2 week menu plan for 3 meals a day and a 2 week menu plan for 2 meals a day. I also bought the recipe book last summer when it was half price in the supermarket. That’s got about 6 pages of info on what the diet is, recipes with calorie, carb, protein, fat and fibre counts, then 5 pages of tips and 2 week menu plans that are different to the paperback book for 3 meals a day and 2 meals a day and also meat-free plans. There is also an index of recipes by calorie and a store cupboard list.

I think there is quite a bit of info online about it now and recipes, he was certainly getting a lot of coverage in 1 online newspaper the other month. There wasn’t much when I did it last year so I got the books but if I was investigating now I’d have a look online before buying the books and risking wasting money if it’s not suited to you. I believe there is not a 1 fit all diet for everyone and we all have unique requirements which change as we age, this seems to suit me with a few tweaks currently ( I’ve tried pretty much every diet going but not the one general grant just mentioned I did Allan Carr’s version with the cd!). I am using a nutrition tracker app to ensure I get adequate micronutrients and try and balance macro nutrients and especially track fibre based on my measurements as I’m making my own menus and recipes up and not just picking recipes from the books. I am not incorporating intermittent fasting at the moment as I don’t enjoy doing that though will try again when/ if I plateau.

Also I should mention you are not supposed to have milk chocolate for an evening snack like I do every night though it does mention you can have a little dark chocolate on occasion. 

Another consideration is that it’s quite an expensive diet to follow, though I find it balances out somewhat now that I’m not buying vast quantities of crisps and gluten free junk food. Hope that’s given you a better idea of the diet.

*zippy*

Afternoon all

Sorry I'm late posting my weigh in Brambling. I can't say I've achieved much, but I've not stopped today. I decided to try bendy curlers in my lockdown hair this morning, but oh my instead of lovely soft curls I looked like something from the hair bear bunch, it's now scraped back again in a ponytail and a load of clips to tame the frizz 

 3.5 lb off this week please xx

greenbee

tighteningthebelt said:

Morning all! 
Reporting a STS for last week. Was hoping for better but we are where we are! I'm still being very strict with my intake so the weight should catch up with itself! Yesterday was a very typical day. I had nothing at breakfast. Lunch at about 13.30 was a corn on the cob🌽 (without butter) and a banana🍌. Afternoon snack about 16.00 was an orange 🍊and a slice of bread 🍞with marmite. Teatime at 20.00 was 2 grilled sausages, about 1 cup mustard mash🥔, lots of broccoli 🥦and carrots🥕, pudding was ¼ honeydew melon🍉 with ginger. No supper. All intake within a 6-7 hour window. It's very rare that I cheat myself as I dont have snack food in the house to tempt me. I just dont see where I can improve on that!! I'm very restricted on the amount of exercise I can do as I have a long term disability so I have to work the intake side of the equation very hard. 
I was pondering on the fast 800 diet, has anyone had any experience of that? Is it worth buying the book? I'm kind of thinking if it's just 'time restricted eating with a max of 800 calories of healthy food' then that's just one sentence so it's not worth the money!!
More health appts this week, and next, things are dragging on in that department. 
Have a nice day everyone. 🌼 

I've done it. The book was helpful in terms of understanding the science. I bought the recipe book as well to get me into the right habits, and I also lurk on the blood sugar diet forums (Fast800 forums require a subscription). There's more to it than the TRE and 800 cals. It's also lowish-carb, moderate protein, healthy fats. So it takes some time to get your head round. But I've lost about 15kgs without it being particularly traumatic, stick to the TRE pretty religiously (I aim for 16/8), and eat low carb at home. It also includes mindfulness - which @monnagran has discovered is very effective!

 If I'm travelling/out then I do my best, but use 5/2 or a week of 800 to reset if I end up eating the wrong stuff due to circumstances and that seems to work for maintenance. I'd thoroughly recommend it - several medics recommended it as having signficant health benefits and I certainly feel much more energetic on it. My gut seems happier too (and I really notice how much happier when I eat stuff I don't normally and get tummy ache!).