Napier Parking - Waterlooville, Hampshire - Now BW Legal

privatepilot

Hi, 
A drive got a letter from Napier Parking dated 7th February as a FINAL REMINDER of a Fixed Charge Notice. This was for a small car park in Waterlooville, Hampshire. The alleged offence was the failure to display a ticket/permit. This occurred on the 15th of December at 14:29. They say they issue an FCN on the 3rd January at 11:55. The parking was paid for via JustPark App. Looking at the JustPark App The driver used for parking, however, They have noticed that the car number plate was out by one letter. So they have charged the keeper £90.00. The keeper went to appeal it directly with Napier Parking on the basis that The driver had paid for parking, it was assumed a simple and honest typo in the registration in the app. However, the keeper/Driver was out of the country when the FINAL REMINDER letter came the driver/keeper was unable to appeal it as the time for appeal had passed. NOTE The initial letter of the FCN was never received. 

The keeper has now received a letter from Napier Parking Dated 13th March (only received it 20th March) stating my account has been passed to their legal team, BW Legal and all communications have to be to BW Legal. They have also added the £60 (for Clients Debt Recovery costs) which as reading above is not legal. No response sent back to BW Legal at this moment and But have till the 27th March to pay. 

Do you recommend leaving it until BW Legal send another letter or should make contact (against the FAQ on this page) and state the above and also report them to the SRA?

Thanks in advance
PrivatePilot

D_P_Dance

Read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6116701/let-us-ignore-all-pcns-not-for-milquetoasts/p1

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully, when life gets back to normal, it will become impossible for those scammers who are left to continue their vile trade, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

beamerguy

Why would you deal with BWLegal until you get the 30 day letter before claim

Even if you do get a letter, it will be 30 days to what ??? The lockdown will prevent BWL going to court for the foreseeable future.   Anyway if it does go to court sometime in the future, you can easily pop along to Southampton court where the spankings of BWLegal started regarding the fake £60 add-on and I don't think BWL will want to turn up for another spanking, even being sanctioned. Southampton court have made it very clear to BWL what they will do.

Judge Giddins said .......
"this court is now systematically striking out claims for those costs"

Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal/p1?new=1

So now, you let BWLegal show their hand ?

nosferatu1001

Dit that post!

they clearly cannot hold the keeper liable, only the driver, yet you tell the whole world who that is. 

THE DRIVER parked. You are the keeper. The keeper does everything. 

privatepilot

nosferatu1001 said:

Dit that post!

they clearly cannot hold the keeper liable, only the driver, yet you tell the whole world who that is. 

THE DRIVER parked. You are the keeper. The keeper does everything. 

Are you saying edit the post? Please explain?

privatepilot

beamerguy said:

Why would you deal with BWLegal until you get the 30 day letter before claim

Even if you do get a letter, it will be 30 days to what ??? The lockdown will prevent BWL going to court for the foreseeable future.   Anyway if it does go to court sometime in the future, you can easily pop along to Southampton court where the spankings of BWLegal started regarding the fake £60 add-on and I don't think BWL will want to turn up for another spanking, even being sanctioned. Southampton court have made it very clear to BWL what they will do.

Judge Giddins said .......
"this court is now systematically striking out claims for those costs"

Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal/p1?new=1

So now, you let BWLegal show their hand ?

Thanks for the info, I don’t plan on speaking to BW Legal at all, but wanted to check what I am doing is recommended. Good to see Southampton courts dealing with these. 

Le_Kirk

privatepilot said:

nosferatu1001 said:

Dit that post!
they clearly cannot hold the keeper liable, only the driver, yet you tell the whole world who that is. 

THE DRIVER parked. You are the keeper. The keeper does everything. 

Are you saying edit the post? Please explain?

Yes, nosferatu is saying EDIT your post as you should only use "the Driver" paid for parking.  "The Driver" might have mistyped the VRM (although how do you know it is not a faulty keypad?), the KEEPER received a PCN and all the letters.  Keepers have protection using PoFA drivers do not.

beamerguy

privatepilot said:

beamerguy said:

Why would you deal with BWLegal until you get the 30 day letter before claim

Even if you do get a letter, it will be 30 days to what ??? The lockdown will prevent BWL going to court for the foreseeable future.   Anyway if it does go to court sometime in the future, you can easily pop along to Southampton court where the spankings of BWLegal started regarding the fake £60 add-on and I don't think BWL will want to turn up for another spanking, even being sanctioned. Southampton court have made it very clear to BWL what they will do.

Judge Giddins said .......
"this court is now systematically striking out claims for those costs"

Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal/p1?new=1

So now, you let BWLegal show their hand ?

Thanks for the info, I don’t plan on speaking to BW Legal at all, but wanted to check what I am doing is recommended. Good to see Southampton courts dealing with these. 

Let's put it this way, if you select Southampton, many of us will turn up to watch BWLegal get a spanking again ... it is a sight to relish

Will they ?   well they are not that smart, maybe they like spankings

privatepilot

Le_Kirk said:

privatepilot said:

nosferatu1001 said:

Dit that post!
they clearly cannot hold the keeper liable, only the driver, yet you tell the whole world who that is. 

THE DRIVER parked. You are the keeper. The keeper does everything. 

Are you saying edit the post? Please explain?

Yes, nosferatu is saying EDIT your post as you should only use "the Driver" paid for parking.  "The Driver" might have mistyped the VRM (although how do you know it is not a faulty keypad?), the KEEPER received a PCN and all the letters.  Keepers have protection using PoFA drivers do not.

Have done so now. Thanks. Let me know if it still isn’t correct 

privatepilot

beamerguy said:

privatepilot said:

beamerguy said:

Why would you deal with BWLegal until you get the 30 day letter before claim

Even if you do get a letter, it will be 30 days to what ??? The lockdown will prevent BWL going to court for the foreseeable future.   Anyway if it does go to court sometime in the future, you can easily pop along to Southampton court where the spankings of BWLegal started regarding the fake £60 add-on and I don't think BWL will want to turn up for another spanking, even being sanctioned. Southampton court have made it very clear to BWL what they will do.

Judge Giddins said .......
"this court is now systematically striking out claims for those costs"

Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal/p1?new=1

So now, you let BWLegal show their hand ?

Thanks for the info, I don’t plan on speaking to BW Legal at all, but wanted to check what I am doing is recommended. Good to see Southampton courts dealing with these. 

Let's put it this way, if you select Southampton, many of us will turn up to watch BWLegal get a spanking again ... it is a sight to relish

Will they ?   well they are not that smart, maybe they like spankings

I’ll happily select Southampton should it come to it. I’ll revert back should anymore letter arrive. 

beamerguy

privatepilot said:

beamerguy said:

privatepilot said:

beamerguy said:

Why would you deal with BWLegal until you get the 30 day letter before claim

Even if you do get a letter, it will be 30 days to what ??? The lockdown will prevent BWL going to court for the foreseeable future.   Anyway if it does go to court sometime in the future, you can easily pop along to Southampton court where the spankings of BWLegal started regarding the fake £60 add-on and I don't think BWL will want to turn up for another spanking, even being sanctioned. Southampton court have made it very clear to BWL what they will do.

Judge Giddins said .......
"this court is now systematically striking out claims for those costs"

Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal/p1?new=1

So now, you let BWLegal show their hand ?

Thanks for the info, I don’t plan on speaking to BW Legal at all, but wanted to check what I am doing is recommended. Good to see Southampton courts dealing with these. 

Let's put it this way, if you select Southampton, many of us will turn up to watch BWLegal get a spanking again ... it is a sight to relish

Will they ?   well they are not that smart, maybe they like spankings

I’ll happily select Southampton should it come to it. I’ll revert back should anymore letter arrive. 

Let us know .... for BWLegal it's "only fools and horses"