Napier Parking - Waterlooville, Hampshire - Now BW Legal

privatepilot

Le_Kirk said:

There are two entries for Curzon Road (with different postcodes) one at row 12 and one at row 2805 in the Excel spreadsheet.  Are you sure you have the right one?  If you do have the right one, with whom do the parking company have a contract?

I have looked back at all the letters, and the first letter I got from Napier Parking (dated 7th Feb 2020, for the alleged failure to display a ticket occurring on 15th December 2020) has a postcode of PO7 7DT, this is NOT on the council's business rates. Then we have the business rates (attached up thread) which has two entries, one is PO7 7NS and PO7 7DS. 
Is it worth asking the council if they have any business rates for the post code on the letter from Napier Parking? 
What next steps?

I have sent off the SAR and also emailed BW Legal to inform them of this. 

1505grandad

If you put the postcode PO7 7DT into Google Street View it shows a car park  -  is that the one the vehicle was parked in?.

privatepilot

1505grandad said:

If you put the postcode PO7 7DT into Google Street View it shows a car park  -  is that the one the vehicle was parked in?.

I have checked and this is correct as shown below, the area within RED is the car park in question. What I am not sure of is its exact address, the council has no reference to the POST Code Napier Parking has on their letter (PO7 7DT), they have two other Postcodes on their business rates for this address?

1505grandad

Well if you google "As Soon As Possible Cat Rescue (a unit in cp  -  other units also) the address is:-

17 The Precinct, London Road (113.94 km)
PO7 7DT Waterlooville

So the location is presumably The Precinct, London Road  -  does this show in LA's doc.?

privatepilot

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it. 
I can confirm there are listings within the local authority business rates document for postcode PO7 7DT, however none of these are listed as Car Parking services, they are all shops. This is because it is a shopping precinct. The reason for trying to find this info is to contact the landowner to show I paid for the parking and it was the fact there was an error on the parking app which had the VPN incorrect by one letter. But I can not find any details of the land owner for this car park, as I have 3 post codes for this land. 

privatepilot

Also, Napier Parking has come back RE the SAR, asking for proof of Identity, I read this is not required? If not then what is the suggested reply to this?

Le_Kirk

privatepilot said:

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it. 
I can confirm there are listings within the local authority business rates document for postcode PO7 7DT, however none of these are listed as Car Parking services, they are all shops. This is because it is a shopping precinct. The reason for trying to find this info is to contact the landowner to show I paid for the parking and it was the fact there was an error on the parking app which had the VPN incorrect by one letter. But I can not find any details of the land owner for this car park, as I have 3 post codes for this land. 

privatepilot said:

Also, Napier Parking has come back RE the SAR, asking for proof of Identity, I read this is not required? If not then what is the suggested reply to this?

There are 23 entries for that post code and, as you say not one of them is a car park; you might need some help from the council as surely some business must be paying the rates!  Have you tried the land registry?  Might cost £3 for an extract of the leaseholder/freeholder but I think you can do enquiries for free to confirm  it is worth paying the money.
Since I have a log-in, I have checked for you and there are 23 properties for that postcode but you would need to know which number before you spend your £3 otherwise you are up for 23 x £3!
When you submit a SAR you are best to attach a scan of your V5C; do NOT be tempted to attach a scan of driving licence or passport both of which contain photos of you and, unless Napier have a database of photos EVERYBODY in the UK, how will they know it is you?  DL and passport contain far too much info to be giving to any PPC.

privatepilot

Le_Kirk said:

privatepilot said:

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it. 
I can confirm there are listings within the local authority business rates document for postcode PO7 7DT, however none of these are listed as Car Parking services, they are all shops. This is because it is a shopping precinct. The reason for trying to find this info is to contact the landowner to show I paid for the parking and it was the fact there was an error on the parking app which had the VPN incorrect by one letter. But I can not find any details of the land owner for this car park, as I have 3 post codes for this land. 

privatepilot said:

Also, Napier Parking has come back RE the SAR, asking for proof of Identity, I read this is not required? If not then what is the suggested reply to this?

There are 23 entries for that post code and, as you say not one of them is a car park; you might need some help from the council as surely some business must be paying the rates!  Have you tried the land registry?  Might cost £3 for an extract of the leaseholder/freeholder but I think you can do enquiries for free to confirm  it is worth paying the money.
Since I have a log-in, I have checked for you and there are 23 properties for that postcode but you would need to know which number before you spend your £3 otherwise you are up for 23 x £3!
When you submit a SAR you are best to attach a scan of your V5C; do NOT be tempted to attach a scan of driving licence or passport both of which contain photos of you and, unless Napier have a database of photos EVERYBODY in the UK, how will they know it is you?  DL and passport contain far too much info to be giving to any PPC.

Thanks, for this info, I will ask my father who is a land buyer for property to look at LandRegistry as he has a business account which does not cost per search and see if I can find that out, if not then back to the council. As either someone has the wrong post code or this just adds to the mess this whole situation is. 
RE the V5C document, I don't have this as it is a leased vehicle, what else can I provide can you suggest?
Thanks

Le_Kirk

Anything that proves you live where they sent the PCN, such as council tax bill, utility bill (I know they are difficult to get these days) or copy of the PCN they sent you!  Redact sensitive info from whatever you submit.

privatepilot

Le_Kirk said:

Anything that proves you live where they sent the PCN, such as council tax bill, utility bill (I know they are difficult to get these days) or copy of the PCN they sent you!  Redact sensitive info from whatever you submit.

Will send a copy of the PCN letter they sent. 
Also we now have another post code, having found the property on Land Registry and the landowner details, the car park is registered at the following postcode - PO7 7DU (attached are the land registry documents). Having now looked up the council business rates, this post code shows no business rates shown for this post code. 

So we now have the following breakdown of the post codes;

• PO7 7DU - Land Registry post code for the site, and is registered to a LTD company which is search able on companies house. 

• PO7 7DT - The postcode of which Napier Parking refer to as the address of the site. 

• PO7 7NS - The Post Code of which shows a liquidated company

PO7 7DS - The Postcode the council has down as the business ratepayer - registered to  CHARTERHOUSE PROJECTS LLP which then matches with the land register as the owner.

Do you recommend to try and contact Charterhouse Projects LLP to explain I have paid the £1 parking amount for the visit and it was a simple typo on an app?
Thanks