Will you comply?

Wednesday2000

Organza_Lace said:

Postman delivered a package today.  Rang the bell, put it on the doorstep and walked about 8ft from the doorstep and waited.  They are under instruction not to get too close.  If anything needs to be signed for he has to ask permission to get close enough to hand over the pad thing.
Well weird when I've chatted to him for months....about as weird as a handshake with the elbow. 

I just came on here to say the same thing!

The delivery driver just told me they are being told to stand 2 metres from the doorway.

maman

Wednesday2000 said:

Organza_Lace said:

Postman delivered a package today.  Rang the bell, put it on the doorstep and walked about 8ft from the doorstep and waited.  They are under instruction not to get too close.  If anything needs to be signed for he has to ask permission to get close enough to hand over the pad thing.
Well weird when I've chatted to him for months....about as weird as a handshake with the elbow. 

I just came on here to say the same thing!

The delivery driver just told me they are being told to stand 2 metres from the doorway.

Our postman said he's a been told to do the signature/squiggle himself but in the presence of the recipient so he doesn't hand over the machine at all. 

Pyxis

maman said:

Wednesday2000 said:

Organza_Lace said:

Postman delivered a package today.  Rang the bell, put it on the doorstep and walked about 8ft from the doorstep and waited.  They are under instruction not to get too close.  If anything needs to be signed for he has to ask permission to get close enough to hand over the pad thing.
Well weird when I've chatted to him for months....about as weird as a handshake with the elbow. 

I just came on here to say the same thing!

The delivery driver just told me they are being told to stand 2 metres from the doorway.

Our postman said he's a been told to do the signature/squiggle himself but in the presence of the recipient so he doesn't hand over the machine at all. 

That’s useful.......I have a signed-for delivery coming on Wednesday, and was wondering if I could ask postie to sign for me.

Pollycat

Pyxis said:

Pollycat said:

Was chatting to some friends yesterday, they all said their parents - all above 80 and some with health issues - do not realise the severity of the situation and don't see why they shouldn't go about their business as usual.

Was speaking to a relative this morning - nearer 90 than 80 and with 2 serious health issues - and they say they are not under any circumstances going to stay in.

How do you deal with people like this?

How are they going to be persuaded to comply with this:?

Every Briton over the age of 70 will be told "within the coming weeks" to stay at home for an extended period to protect themselves from coronavirus.

When it happens, they will be asked to stay home for "a very long time", Health Secretary Matt Hancock said.

The government is to release social distancing advice for elderly people on Monday - but they will not yet be asked to self-isolate for long periods.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51895873

They might respond to the ‘protecting the NHS point’ more than to the protecting themselves point.

I'm not convinced they will.

molerat

Pyxis said:

maman said:

Wednesday2000 said:

Organza_Lace said:

Postman delivered a package today.  Rang the bell, put it on the doorstep and walked about 8ft from the doorstep and waited.  They are under instruction not to get too close.  If anything needs to be signed for he has to ask permission to get close enough to hand over the pad thing.
Well weird when I've chatted to him for months....about as weird as a handshake with the elbow. 

I just came on here to say the same thing!

The delivery driver just told me they are being told to stand 2 metres from the doorway.

Our postman said he's a been told to do the signature/squiggle himself but in the presence of the recipient so he doesn't hand over the machine at all. 

That’s useful.......I have a signed-for delivery coming on Wednesday, and was wondering if I could ask postie to sign for me.

Signing for and receiving items

In order to protect both our people and customers as much as possible, we will not be handing over our hand-held devices to customers to capture signatures. Postmen and women will instead log the name of the person accepting the item. This will apply to all deliveries that require a signature. 

Additionally, for all customers (including those who are self-isolating) where we need to deliver any parcel that won’t fit through your letterbox, we will place your item at your door. Having knocked on your door, we will then step aside to a safe distance while you retrieve your item. This will ensure your item is delivered securely rather than being left outside. 

If you are unable to come to the door at all we will issue a ‘Something for You’ card, advising of other ways you can arrange to get your item. For example, by getting a friend or family member to collect the parcel from our local Customer Service Point on your behalf. In this situation, and to keep your mail as secure as possible, they will need to bring along the card we left you and a form of ID in the name of the person the item is addressed to. Full information on acceptable forms of ID can be found hereOpens in a new window.

EssexHebridean

My parents are both over 70, and are entirely aware of the risks they face from COVID-19. However, they are also currently both active and independent - and are entirely realistic that if forced to live in isolation in their fairly small house for even as short a time as a few weeks, they would rapidly lose their independence and then probably their mobility. Their garden is not of a sufficient size to be able to guarantee staying 2m away from others, or indeed to be able to get any real amount of exercise. They have both said - and for avoidance of doubt, I will support them in their decision - that they will continue to go out while taking sensible precautions - shopping at less busy times, avoiding stopping to have conversation with others while dog-walking etc. Plentiful handwashing before and after going out, and using wipes on shopping trolley handles etc (yes, of limited use that one, I know, but it makes them feel that they are doing something, so psychologically a good thing). 

I understand the frustration of those saying that their elderly relatives don't get the significance of the situation - that is rather different to the position mine are in, thankfully. Ultimately - they are still entirely "with it" and capable of making their own decisions. They also both feel that they have had their time, as it were, and have no wish to extend that time in one way whilst reducing it to a mere existence, in another.

From our perspective, we've avoiding direct close contact with them currently - and personally are largely carrying on "business as normal" but again with added handwashing etc. Neither of us work for companies who have called WFH as yet - MrEH's office is fairly large and has had some folk affected through displaying symptoms or contact with those who have - my office is tiny, there are only three of us  working here and we none of us travel here by pubic transport. We've got a meeting to attend on Saturday which is still going ahead currently - we'll be attending. MrEH played rugby on Saturday and I joined him at the rugby club for beers afterwards as I quite often do. It was noticeably quieter in there than it would usually be - in part due to the postponement of the 6-nations matches. That is just one of many local businesses that will be facing a really tough time over the next little while, so keen to support where we can. We're both keeping abreast of the facts and steering clear of (or calling out, where applicable) the scaremongering - that gives us the  best chance of keeping informed, and thus being able to make informed decisions, without succumbing to the panic that seems to be rife across social media! 

Mrs_Salad_Dodger

Really liked your post EssexHebridean - pragmatic. Thank you 🙏 again 

greenbee

@EssexHebridean It looks like Boris says we can go out for exercise, but take sensible precautions (i.e. keep 2m away from others). This is what @MrsLurcherwalker has been talking about, and what I was advised to do despite the 'official' advice being to stay indoors.
Today I've been out in the garden strimming in between work calls in an attempt to get fresh air and exercise. I'm shattered!

Pollycat

So are all we fit & healthy not-at-risk people going to stop going to pubs & restaurants?
I have a birthday meal booked for tomorrow. 

Mummy2cheekymonkeys

I'm seething this morning. The council website have put up an announcement echoing that of the prime minister stating that people should start social distancing and work from home if it is possible to do so. I show this to me husband who checks his emails. They have all been sent a communication from the chief exec of the council (this guy gets paid more then the prime minister apparently) his email states that they should "follow their usual working patterns" ie business as usual, get in the office. Am I crazy for getting angry at this?!?!?! So basically the council is advising people to work from home where possible but apparently this does not apply to their own employees!