Will Brexit happen?

Moby

lvader wrote: »

Corbyn isn't allowed, he's not the PM

I have no problem with people complaining with what Boris has done, but it is his right as PM to do so.

I was sort of assuming people would realise my premise was based on him being PM at the time.

Moby

lvader wrote: »

Are you sure?, when was that?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-47562202/brexit-mps-reject-any-no-deal-option-in-two-votes

Fran_Klee

Moby wrote: »

The decision parliament has made not to leave the EU without a deal.

When was that please?
They have had three years in which to say this and make it official but AFAIK there has been no motion passed.

Fran_Klee

Moby wrote: »

I was sort of assuming people would realise my premise was based on him being PM at the time.

Ah so you're dreaming?

Moby

Fran_Klee wrote: »

When was that please?
They have had three years in which to say this and make it official but AFAIK there has been no motion passed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47562995

Fran_Klee

Moby wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-47562202/brexit-mps-reject-any-no-deal-option-in-two-votes

That doesn't matter.
It was "advisory".
They voted to implement Article 50 before that, by a huge majority too.

All they've done is say they want a 99 without the flake if they can pretty please, basically.

lvader

Moby wrote: »

The decision parliament has made not to leave the EU without a deal.

Ah yes the Spelman amendment that only passed because the amendment actually stated that it was only advisory and non-binding.

Moby

lvader wrote: »

Ah yes the Spelman amendment that only passed because the amendment actually stated that it was only advisory and non-binding.

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-parliament-votes-to-reject-no-deal-brexit-2/

MPs on Wednesday voted to reject a no-deal Brexit, paving the way for Theresa May to ask the EU for a delay to the U.K.'s departure from the bloc.

In another night of high drama in the Commons, MPs voted by 321 to 278 in favor of a motion to rule out leaving the EU with no deal on March 29. Minutes earlier, that motion had been amended in another vote to toughen up the government's wording against leaving without a deal.

The defeat for the government, by 43 votes, prompted shouts of “resign” from opposition MPs. Responding to the result, the prime minister, barely able to speak because of a hoarse voice, acknowledged the "clear majority against leaving without a deal." But she said the legal reality remains that the U.K. would leave without a deal on March 29 unless a divorce treaty is agreed, Article 50 revoked or a delay to Britain’s exit day signed off by the EU.

To give MPs' rejection of no deal legal force, May must formally request an extension from the EU27, who must reach a unanimous decision on whether they will grant it.

Which May duly did!:)

Parliament has therefore expressed its will and a Govmt that ignores it is no better than a cheap tin pot dictatorship.

Fran_Klee

Moby wrote: »

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-parliament-votes-to-reject-no-deal-brexit-2/
Which May duly did!
Parliament has therefore expressed its will and a Govmt that ignores it is no better than a cheap tin pot dictatorship.

Give it up.
You're talking about an advisory vote which has no legal force regarding a deal proposed by Theresa May in March.
Not about now.

The "cheap tinpot dictatorship" is in fact all those MP's who agreed to implement Article 50 in the full knowledge that it would not necessarily mean a deal was forthcoming and who now are trying to refuse both options.
That won't wash.
And that is why we are where we are now.

If you don't want the deal on offer but you've already agreed we will leave, there is only one option left.
Like it or not, understanding that Boris has done the right thing and if nothing else we should see the outcome soon enough.

lvader

Moby wrote: »

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-parliament-votes-to-reject-no-deal-brexit-2/






Which May duly did!:)

Parliament has therefore expressed its will and a Govmt that ignores it is no better than a cheap tin pot dictatorship.

Superseded by the vote in June that defeated attempts to stop a no deal Brexit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921

MPs have rejected a Labour-led effort to take control of Parliament's timetable, blocking the latest attempt to stop a no-deal Brexit.
The Commons opposed the move by 309 votes to 298.
If passed, it would have given opponents of a no-deal Brexit the chance to table legislation to thwart the UK leaving without any agreement on the 31 October deadline.