Will Brexit happen?

Dippypud

Malthusian wrote: »

Hedge funds are a status symbol, a way to relieve rich people of excess wealth if they don't like people enough for philanthropy. Most of them lose money. And they went out of fashion a decade ago.

"Leave only won the referendum because it was rigged by currency speculators" exists in the same box of desperation as "Leave actually lost the referendum because only 37% of the electorate voted for it and 37 is more than 34".

Hedge funds are still a thing ... alive and kicking and spending other peoples money in London even as we speak ...

Thrugelmir

Dippypud wrote: »

Hedge funds are still a thing ... alive and kicking and spending other peoples money in London even as we speak ...

So are investment bankers. Though both species are in decline.

adindas

Ehmm 
What to say to people who are expecting Brexit would not happen ... 

phillw

adindas said:

Ehmm 
What to say to people who are expecting Brexit would not happen ... 

Maybe wait until the end of the year and see whether Farage says if Brexit happened. 

Herzlos

I guess it's happened, in that we've left and now just need to do the easy part of the future trade deals. So I was wrong there.

I'm still not convinced that the arrangement between us and the EU on Jan 1st, 2021 will in any way resemble what the Leavers are expecting. I just can't decide in which way Boris will betray them yet.

adindas

phillw said:

adindas said:

Ehmm 
What to say to people who are expecting Brexit would not happen ... 

Maybe wait until the end of the year and see whether Farage says if Brexit happened.
Brexit has happened, irrespectively what Farage will say at the end of the year.

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Herzlos said:

I guess it's happened, in that we've left and now just need to do the easy part of the future trade deals. So I was wrong there.

I'm still not convinced that the arrangement between us and the EU on Jan 1st, 2021 will in any way resemble what the Leavers are expecting. I just can't decide in which way Boris will betray them yet.

Well there's clearly going to be compromises just as there was with the location of the (practical) Irish Border.
I agree that we'll just have to wait and see exactly what happens in the detail, but 'it' has happened ....

adindas

Herzlos said:

I guess it's happened, in that we've left and now just need to do the easy part of the future trade deals. So I was wrong there.

I'm still not convinced that the arrangement between us and the EU on Jan 1st, 2021 will in any way resemble what the Leavers are expecting. I just can't decide in which way Boris will betray them yet.

Good to see that No deal Brexit, Trading under WTO is still on the table. Nowadays the situation is reversed, no deal brexit scared the EU more than the UK. As has been confirmed by the Chief Secretary to the Treasury that the UK do not have to have a trade deal with the EU as there are so many options outside EU. Shamed on you all of that scaremongers, your scaremonger has been proven wrong layer by later, day by day. 
That is what you do in negotiation. If No -deal off the table. UK will have very little leverage and will be let humiliated like when the negotiation was under Theresa May. Blame all of that to Theresa May, and her civil servant. They have given almost all of the power that could be used as a leverage on  the negotiation table. What the current government has inherited is just a mess up by her and her civil servant with very little negotiation power left. Glad to see this woman will be written in the history book and all generation will remember her as the worst prime minister in the Modern British History. Shamefully, although all of the mess upi she had created she still compared herself like Margareth. As mentioned by Nigel Lawson, if the negotiation was under MT, she would not let the UK to be humiliated and would have walked away from day one. 

Herzlos

Shame on you for buying the nonsense that we've got nothing to worry about from WTO terms.

WTO has never actually been on the table, and even with the threats of it we're going to be left humiliated.

I'm not sure May will be remembered as the worst Prime Minister in history, we've barely had 6 months of Johnson.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos said:

Shame on you for buying the nonsense that we've got nothing to worry about from WTO terms.

WTO has never actually been on the table, and even with the threats of it we're going to be left humiliated.

I'm not sure May will be remembered as the worst Prime Minister in history, we've barely had 6 months of Johnson.

WTO is the default backstop. Always been on the table.  
Be the basis on which Scotland trades with the remainder of the UK after independence.