Will Brexit happen?

Sailtheworld

John_Doe said:

Thrugelmir said:

_mayonnaise_ said:

fatbeetle said:

Why do the EU need the UK cash cow?

[quote]The figures did not change the disappointing reading for the entire eurozone of 0.1% growth during the fourth quarter.[/quote]

Very disappointing, especially compared to the UK in full Boris bounce and posting 0.0% growth.

ECB are continuing to print money with little impact..........

Yes, Eurozone 2019 growth 1.2% vs UK 2019 growth 1.4% & the Eurozone haven't been squabbling among themselves trying to get out of the EU. The difference isn't much right enough but given the EU's dire forecasts there's no wonder they are worried that the UK is going to do better than them.
The "Boris bounce" couldn't happen before Boris BTW so look to the future for that, though signs for the near future so far look quite promising. Much more promising than those of Germany, France and Italy.

The only reason there's talk of a Boris Bounce is because it's alliterative - there's no substance to it.
As for hoping the EU economy tanks you should maybe be careful what you wish for. I know it hurts but the UK isn't being relocated so expect EU/ UK economic fortunes to remain correlated.

fatbeetle

Oh dear, George "crystal ball" Osborne better not get a job as an economic forecaster.

Average weekly wages in the UK have reached their highest levels since before the financial crisis.

Weekly pay reached £512 in the three months to December, which - adjusting for inflation - is the highest since March 2008.

Excluding bonuses, earnings grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the three-month period, official figures show.

Employment rose by 180,000 to another record high of 32.93 million, while unemployment stayed at 1.29 million.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the number of women in employment increased again - this time by 150,000 in the three months to December to a record high of 15.61 million.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51543521

triathlon

Crashy_Time said:

triathlon said:

Crashy_Time said:

EU looking weaker by the day, they will probably capitulate on everything, or maybe try to bring the UK down with them? The banking sector will be hardest hit in that scenario so win win as far as most Leave voters are concerned I would say. Scotland leaving and joining EU is a pipe dream for fanatics I`m afraid, the population won`t go for it when (if) it ever comes down to that type of vote. Best bet for Scotland is that the EU noticeably deteriorates quickly then the SNP nonsense can be put to rest forever.

Still waiting for the end of the world crashy?
How many people do you think are actually taking any notice of you?
Anyway, can't hang around chatting on here, need to put a few logs on the woodburner and get the lounge in my home nice and cosy on this cold windy night.

Enjoy browsing HPC.

And you along with your posting 

PS   To be straight with you I have just come off a thread on there relating to a bunch of you guys now in a panic because they are now in their 40's and 50's... Tragic

triathlon

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/18/the-new-uk-immigration-rules-tell-employers-to-suck-it-up
And so it begins.
I have fully accepted the dumb idea that was Brexit, you can only work with what you have got and that is exactly what I have done, unlike the crybabies who constantly whine about how unfair life is and how they cannot get this or that handed on a plate.
OK, I might lose a few brilliant tenants, have contingency plans for that already, but the UK is now about to lose a hard working non complaining affordable work force that did all the dirty work in the UK. 
All those that voted Brexit because they thought they would something get a better life because of the immigrants going are about to see their living costs shoot up.
Seriously I am fine with it, I can afford it, and like I say again I have really always been prepared for parts of British nature that will never change, i.e it's deep rooted racism.

Arklight

triathlon said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/18/the-new-uk-immigration-rules-tell-employers-to-suck-it-up
And so it begins.
I have fully accepted the dumb idea that was Brexit, you can only work with what you have got and that is exactly what I have done, unlike the crybabies who constantly whine about how unfair life is and how they cannot get this or that handed on a plate.
OK, I might lose a few brilliant tenants, have contingency plans for that already, but the UK is now about to lose a hard working non complaining affordable work force that did all the dirty work in the UK. 
All those that voted Brexit because they thought they would something get a better life because of the immigrants going are about to see their living costs shoot up.
Seriously I am fine with it, I can afford it, and like I say again I have really always been prepared for parts of British nature that will never change, i.e it's deep rooted racism.

I think Brexit is a process of the UK wallowing in its own stupidity until it decides it wants something better. The main losers here, as with everything Brexit related are Brits. All those EU nationals about to be expelled, still have the entire of the European Union to live and work in as they please.

Little Englanders have only Little England. And how small and narrow minded that place is looking these days.

Moe_The_Bartender

Arklight said:

triathlon said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/18/the-new-uk-immigration-rules-tell-employers-to-suck-it-up
And so it begins.
I have fully accepted the dumb idea that was Brexit, you can only work with what you have got and that is exactly what I have done, unlike the crybabies who constantly whine about how unfair life is and how they cannot get this or that handed on a plate.
OK, I might lose a few brilliant tenants, have contingency plans for that already, but the UK is now about to lose a hard working non complaining affordable work force that did all the dirty work in the UK. 
All those that voted Brexit because they thought they would something get a better life because of the immigrants going are about to see their living costs shoot up.
Seriously I am fine with it, I can afford it, and like I say again I have really always been prepared for parts of British nature that will never change, i.e it's deep rooted racism.

I think Brexit is a process of the UK wallowing in its own stupidity until it decides it wants something better. The main losers here, as with everything Brexit related are Brits. All those EU nationals about to be expelled, still have the entire of the European Union to live and work in as they please.

Little Englanders have only Little England. And how small and narrow minded that place is looking these days.

Who exactly is going to be expelled? Only six criminals out of the 2.6m who have been granted residence rights so far.

Dick_Rambo

fatbeetle said:

Oh dear, George "crystal ball" Osborne better not get a job as an economic forecaster.

Average weekly wages in the UK have reached their highest levels since before the financial crisis.

Weekly pay reached £512 in the three months to December, which - adjusting for inflation - is the highest since March 2008.

Excluding bonuses, earnings grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the three-month period

Employment rose by 180,000 to another record high of 32.93 million, while unemployment stayed at 1.29 million.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the number of women in employment increased again - this time by 150,000 in the three months to December to a record high of 15.61 million.

Rising employment, rising wages, but a flat-lining economy. 
Interesting.

gfplux

This is the policy statement published by the Government on the 19th February. Although I believe there has been some modifications/clarifications already.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uks-points-based-immigration-system-policy-statement/the-uks-points-based-immigration-system-policy-statement

gfplux

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

There may be a bonus for the semi skilled in work at the moment as employers may be forced to pay more, offer better working conditions and perhaps even stop offering zero hour contracts.

phillw

Ruprecht said:

The EU that can not possibly negotiate a trade deal with a country already aligned within a year yet you think that a new country will be accepted as a new member by the EU quickly even though it has to meet their membership criteria is being more than a little bit hopeful, it would take years if all went well. The EU won't let members join if they have not settled agreements with neighbours either or don't you bother checking things.

It doesn't matter how aligned we are now, it's how aligned we are negotiating to be and that appears to be not very aligned at all.
A report recently said Scotland could join within 5 years. They would be able to immediately use WTO section 24.
There is a very real possibility that Scotland could have a referendum and have a better trade deal with the EU than us, quicker than us. Boris only hope is to forcibly hold them in a union that has now materially changed since the last time they were asked.