Will Brexit happen?

triathlon

Arklight said:

triathlon said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/18/the-new-uk-immigration-rules-tell-employers-to-suck-it-up
And so it begins.
I have fully accepted the dumb idea that was Brexit, you can only work with what you have got and that is exactly what I have done, unlike the crybabies who constantly whine about how unfair life is and how they cannot get this or that handed on a plate.
OK, I might lose a few brilliant tenants, have contingency plans for that already, but the UK is now about to lose a hard working non complaining affordable work force that did all the dirty work in the UK. 
All those that voted Brexit because they thought they would something get a better life because of the immigrants going are about to see their living costs shoot up.
Seriously I am fine with it, I can afford it, and like I say again I have really always been prepared for parts of British nature that will never change, i.e it's deep rooted racism.

I think Brexit is a process of the UK wallowing in its own stupidity until it decides it wants something better. The main losers here, as with everything Brexit related are Brits. All those EU nationals about to be expelled, still have the entire of the European Union to live and work in as they please.

Little Englanders have only Little England. And how small and narrow minded that place is looking these days.

Just look at the type of people many of the Brexiteers want sending back, trim and physically fit, well mannered and so many of them are so bright with bags of commonsense and work ethic, to be replaced by the Harry Enfield and Kathy Burke slob  characters, I don;t think so.
We know who the non achieving crybabies are on here, they somehow think that all the competition they cannot compete with will all run back to Eastern Europe and leave them cheap homes. I will guarantee that these same people failed in the last two decades in a booming economy and would fail 100% in a downturn,

Thrugelmir

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

We need to start a conversation about immigration? Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. It's clearly been rushed because even the Home Secretary who you'd think would've been involved in defining the contents isn't entirely sure what's contained within the HMG's Policy Statement. It's not a consulation document.

lisyloo

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. I

Brexit walks into a bar.
barman says - why the long farce?
sorry it’s Friday !

Thrugelmir

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

We need to start a conversation about immigration? Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. It's clearly been rushed because even the Home Secretary who you'd think would've been involved in defining the contents isn't entirely sure what's contained within the HMG's Policy Statement. It's not a consulation document.

Refinements will undoubtably be required. The dscussion has been about uncontrolled immigration not immigration per se. 

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir said:

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

We need to start a conversation about immigration? Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. It's clearly been rushed because even the Home Secretary who you'd think would've been involved in defining the contents isn't entirely sure what's contained within the HMG's Policy Statement. It's not a consulation document.

The dscussion has been about uncontrolled immigration not immigration per se. 

History is written by the victors eh?

Fran_Klee

!!!!!!_Rambo said:

fatbeetle said:

Oh dear, George "crystal ball" Osborne better not get a job as an economic forecaster.

Average weekly wages in the UK have reached their highest levels since before the financial crisis.

Weekly pay reached £512 in the three months to December, which - adjusting for inflation - is the highest since March 2008.

Excluding bonuses, earnings grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the three-month period

Employment rose by 180,000 to another record high of 32.93 million, while unemployment stayed at 1.29 million.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the number of women in employment increased again - this time by 150,000 in the three months to December to a record high of 15.61 million.

Rising employment, rising wages, but a flat-lining economy. 
Interesting.

You're way behind the times. 
"U.K. Economy Is Picking Up After Brexit" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-21/u-k-economy-is-picking-up-despite-coronavirus-concerns
"Economic ‘bounce’ gives UK chancellor good news ahead of Budget"  https://www.ft.com/content/df7e720e-54bd-11ea-8841-482eed0038b1

Fran_Klee

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

We need to start a conversation about immigration? Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. It's clearly been rushed because even the Home Secretary who you'd think would've been involved in defining the contents isn't entirely sure what's contained within the HMG's Policy Statement. It's not a consulation document.

The dscussion has been about uncontrolled immigration not immigration per se. 

History is written by the victors eh?

History written by historical fact rather than deliberate deception; fortunately the arrival of so many people into the country with no job or home waiting for them thanks to EU rules is historical fact.

Thrugelmir

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

We need to start a conversation about immigration? Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. It's clearly been rushed because even the Home Secretary who you'd think would've been involved in defining the contents isn't entirely sure what's contained within the HMG's Policy Statement. It's not a consulation document.

The dscussion has been about uncontrolled immigration not immigration per se. 

History is written by the victors eh?

Currently history appears to be being elsewhere. All happy to accept the UK's net contribution. However won't put their hands in their own pockets nor accept less funding for their favoured sectors. 
Diminishing remittances being sent home won't help either. 

Moe_The_Bartender

Thrugelmir said:

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

Sailtheworld said:

Thrugelmir said:

gfplux said:

While the points based system appears a rushed job. Don’t you wish ministers would sit and think for 24 hours before they publish?

Just need to start to have the conversation. Refinements can follow as neccessary.

We need to start a conversation about immigration? Nothing but immigration has been discussed for three years and dominated discourse before that. It's clearly been rushed because even the Home Secretary who you'd think would've been involved in defining the contents isn't entirely sure what's contained within the HMG's Policy Statement. It's not a consulation document.

The dscussion has been about uncontrolled immigration not immigration per se. 

History is written by the victors eh?

Currently history appears to be being elsewhere. All happy to accept the UK's net contribution. However won't put their hands in their own pockets nor accept less funding for their favoured sectors. 
Diminishing remittances being sent home won't help either. 

There was a proposal put forward yesterday afternoon that €10bn could be cut from the EU budget by trimming their science and research programmes.

Helloooo. Wasn’t the EU science and research programme one of the reasons that so many UK academics voted remain?