Will Brexit happen?

Takedap

Pete_Zaluver wrote: »

The difference between a remainer and a Brexiter:

"The country will die as it floats off into the Atlantic with no food, no medicines, no flights, no power."
VS
"The country will carry on pretty much as normal and most people will not see any discernible difference."

The truth will be somewhere in between. But we will almost certainly be in a worse position than we are now. We just don't know how much worse. If we leave with No Deal,. I would like to see Boris held personally responsible & brought to account. He cannot deny that he was given the warnings and chose to ingore them.

phillw

Pete_Zaluver wrote: »

The difference between a remainer and a Brexiter:

"The country will die as it floats off into the Atlantic with no food, no medicines, no flights, no power."
VS
"The country will carry on pretty much as normal and most people will not see any discernible difference."

Nah, the difference is

Remainer: we will all lose something, but the poor are going to be the most disadvantaged.

Leaver: Hail the glorious leader saving us from foreigners and making our lives 100 times better

Sailtheworld

buglawton wrote: »

It's hard to tell on a quick reading if your Brexit posts are ironic, ie pro or anti Brexit. I think others are getting the same impression. It's as if you're attempting be ironic but not in your mother tongue language.

Irony doesn't work on the Internet and I should stop trying it.

Brexit was a stupid idea dreamed up by Cameron to try and put the right back in their box and transfer their votes to the Tories. Quite a success judging by the 2017 election but you were only meant to vote Tory and not for Brexit too.

...and the right are very much back out of their boxes.

Sailtheworld

Pete_Zaluver wrote: »

The difference between a remainer and a Brexiter:

"The country will die as it floats off into the Atlantic with no food, no medicines, no flights, no power."
VS
"The country will carry on pretty much as normal and most people will not see any discernible difference."

Well that's a silly analogy because most people whatever they voted for would be closer to the latter than former.

It's the fundamental problem with extremists - they try and paint people who disagree with them as equal and opposite extremists.

Herzlos

Lets be honest here, no-one who's still demanding Brexit will care about the contents of the Yellowhammer report - it's all Project Fear and contains nothing new. We're very much post-fact.


Their views will only change once they've been betrayed by Johnson.

phillw

Herzlos wrote: »

Their views will only change once they've been betrayed by Johnson.

Certainly his strategy of keeping his negotiating plan a secret until the last minute should worry the leavers more at this stage.

Takedap

Herzlos wrote: »

Lets be honest here, no-one who's still demanding Brexit will care about the contents of the Yellowhammer report - it's all Project Fear and contains nothing new. We're very much post-fact.


Their views will only change once they've been betrayed by Johnson.

At which time they'll move even further to the right.

Takedap

phillw wrote: »

Certainly his strategy of keeping his negotiating plan a secret until the last minute should worry the leavers more at this stage.

Ah, but his 30 day deadline ends soon. Then all will be revealed!

Zero_Gravitas

In the meantime, our egregious Prime Minister is now lying about having lied...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49674516

phillw

Takedap wrote: »

Ah, but his 30 day deadline ends soon. Then all will be revealed!

Will it? Or will he just keep quiet until the 17th, when it will be too late for the leavers to do anything about it. If it's remainy enough for parliament then it will get passed and the leavers will just sit there wondering what happened.

JRM might be the second Rees Mogg to be out maneuvered over europe.