20 mph speed limits.

Robisere

Male trespasser here, miduck*.



So glad I live in a rural area, but I do have to drive through some urban areas and many small villages in my adopted county of Lincolnshire, which have "Advisory" 20 mph limits around schools. I do observe these limits, in fact I observe and keep to all limits. At school opening and closing times, I actually drive at between 10 and 15 mph, especially around a large local Academy, where pupils from 11 to 18 have to negotiate a complex roundabout system, on foot or with bikes.


But as has been said here, when schools are closed for holidays and weekends, there is no point to the 20 limit, so I travel at 30 because it's a built up area anyway.


*Nottinghamshire term of endearment when greeting a lady. Regarded as misogynistic by feminists and viewed on a level with the Yorkshire "luv" or the West Country "moi luvverrr".

Supersonos

I will drive at 20mph in a 20 zone, but it can feel very intimidating. Most other road users deem it too slow and see you as being in their way, so I regularly get flashed, beeped at and over-taken.

Nodding_Donkey

It would be great if there was some sort of standard for the signage on 20mph limits. Vast areas of south London have 20MPH painted on the road with no sign of proper speed limit signs. For years everyone new that the speed limit in a built up area was 30mph unless the signs said otherwise. Now you have no way of knowing wether it really is a 20 limit or the local council pulling a fast one.

silverwhistle

Robisere wrote: »

Male trespasser here, miduck*.

That's alright, mate.*

There's a 20 mph stretch through a little village near me which seems entirely sensible: tight, narrow curves with poor sight lines, narrowing slightly over a bridge with flint bridge parapets and only one narrow pavement, plenty of cyclists and regular horses and even pony and traps.

Since you're not accelerating and braking I fail to see why some are complaining about having to be in second: my car does it perfectly well in third as it's flat and there's no load.

But I'm not someone with a car welded to my bum, so I take the rough with the smooth and allow enough time for my journeys so that I'm not fretting.

* Universal term used locally including in my women's football team to both team mates and coaches. Twenty miles west it would be 'mush'.

z1a

Blackburn have recently removed all the 20 limits, back to 30 everywhere.

westernpromise

Surely the simplest answer to speeding would just be to ban Audis?

westernpromise

Nodding_Donkey wrote: »

It would be great if there was some sort of standard for the signage on 20mph limits. Vast areas of south London have 20MPH painted on the road with no sign of proper speed limit signs. For years everyone new that the speed limit in a built up area was 30mph unless the signs said otherwise. Now you have no way of knowing wether it really is a 20 limit or the local council pulling a fast one.

The only mandatory instructions re speed are those displayed on road signs with black numbers on white inside a red circle. Anything else, including things painted on the road, is advisory. If you see 20 painted on the road and it's a built up area with no other signs, then the speed limit is 30.

It's in the Highway Code, which you don't seem to be familiar with - Audi driver I'm guessing?

Nodding_Donkey

westernpromise wrote: »

The only mandatory instructions re speed are those displayed on road signs with black numbers on white inside a red circle. Anything else, including things painted on the road, is advisory. If you see 20 painted on the road and it's a built up area with no other signs, then the speed limit is 30.

It's in the Highway Code, which you don't seem to be familiar with - Audi driver I'm guessing?

You appear to be agreeing with me and then accuse me of being an Audi driver and not being familiar with the highway code. You obviously have a comprehension problem. That's the trouble with the internet, you have no way of assessing your audiences IQ.

heatherw_01

I am female and we have 20mph zones around here and honestly it's a joke. It is way too slow and no one seems to do it anyway. Minimum should be 30mph imo

custardy

fred990 wrote: »

Hoping the proposed blanket 20 mph speed limits in London will spread out.
The radio programmes today were jammed with fuming fulminating objecting drivers.
Stuff cyclists, pedestrians & children they said.
Get out of my way, I'm in my car.

All callers were male!!
So lets have only female thoughts on this. No male car bores please.
Bet there aren't many (if at all).

From my Twitter just today from London

Cyclist nearly killed by left turning lorry (before the usual jump on it,the cyclist was ahead of the lorry and the lorry was in RH turn lane)
Only saved by the observations of another cyclist

https://twitter.com/JustJevens/status/1022040299277873152

WARNING this tweet contains an image of an a fatal accident scene.
Cyclist killed
no gore but it does show the lorry and mangled bike

https://twitter.com/sophiawardman9/status/1022135385420431360

I did read an article today about them changing lights to prioritise pedestrians and defaulting to green for peds.

Reality is cities are designed for motorised transport and that needs to change.