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20 mph speed limits.
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Please note cyclists passing slow or static moving traffic, be it on the left or right, is NOT "undertaking", but filtering, same as motorbikes can do. The highway code makes specific allowances to do this and tells drivers to be aware of this.
It's not undertaking, it's overtaking on the left.Where does the HC specifically allow cyclists to filter?0 -
It's not undertaking, it's overtaking on the left.Where does the HC specifically allow cyclists to filter?In the context of cycling, ‘filtering’ means moving past slow or stationary traffic, either on the left or the right of the traffic ahead. Whilst neither the law, nor the Highway Code definitively state whether or not filtering by cyclists is legal, it can be inferred from the text of the Highway Code that it is acceptable practice, for example:
Rule 160 states that road users should ‘be aware of other road users, especially cycles and motorcycles who may be filtering through the traffic’ and Rule 88, in relation to manoeuvring, states that road users should take care and keep speed low ‘…when filtering in slow-moving traffic’. Furthermore, rule 211 says that ‘it is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are filtering through traffic’.
Thats from Cycle Law
http://www.cyclelaw.co.uk/overtaking-and-filtering-whilst-cycling
One thing I would say is going on the right carries plenty of risks.
One of the most ironic being drivers not letting you back in/leaving gaps for when traffic starts moving.0 -
So if I stand behind a flatbed he can see me?
Yes because its only 4ft high so unless you're shorter than 4ft he can see you out of the rear view mirrors if you're behind him assuming you're not blocked by a load.
The more you post the more you illustrate you don't have a clue about lorries at all. My advice is to stand on the pavement whilst one is in your vicinity because you appear to be so bereft of intelligence that you are more likely to put yourself in a position of danger.
And as a final note I'll just point out this which people like you and cyclists in London seem to be unaware of...
Highway Code Rule 221:
Large vehicles. These may need extra road space to turn or to deal with a hazard that you are not able to see. If you are following a large vehicle, such as a bus or articulated lorry, be aware that the driver may not be able to see you in the mirrors. Be prepared to stop and wait if it needs room or time to turn.
And oh look, the example in the highway code shows a picture of a lorry moving to the right whilst indicating left to make a tight turn.
It's almost as if you and the cyclists in London have never read the Highway Code. You and they should try, it might stop you looking like an idiot and them from putting themselves in well advertised dangerous positions.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Yes because its only 4ft high so unless you're shorter than 4ft he can see you out of the rear view mirrors if you're behind him assuming you're not blocked by a load.
The more you post the more you illustrate you don't have a clue about lorries at all. My advice is to stand on the pavement whilst one is in your vicinity because you appear to be so bereft of intelligence that you are more likely to put yourself in a position of danger.
And as a final note I'll just point out this which people like you and cyclists in London seem to be unaware of...
Highway Code Rule 221:
Large vehicles. These may need extra road space to turn or to deal with a hazard that you are not able to see. If you are following a large vehicle, such as a bus or articulated lorry, be aware that the driver may not be able to see you in the mirrors. Be prepared to stop and wait if it needs room or time to turn.
And oh look, the example in the highway code shows a picture of a lorry moving to the right whilst indicating left to make a tight turn.
It's almost as if you and the cyclists in London have never read the Highway Code. You and they should try, it might stop you looking like an idiot and them from putting themselves in well advertised dangerous positions.
No, lets try again. He cannot see behind him.
He can see the sides and a distance behind him.
By your logic he is fine not seeing a cyclist in front/to the side of him but has perfect vision reversing against traffic/pedestrians.
I do like you are still trying to justify a driver squashing someone to death as the cyclists fault. As I said before,you prove my point about attitudes than I could ever demonstrate.
Yes would you like to find the bit in the HC where it entitles the lorry to do it at the detriment of other road users? Be prepared to stop doesnt mean to save your life as the lorry has shown complete disregard for human life. You will see in the image (probably easier for you) the lorry hasnt overtaken someone and swung across them. Is that just an omission?
Keep the insults coming though. You don't have a black cab driver mate who drops off road casualties for you do you?
Edit: Im guessing I need to do a picture despite your vast alleged professional driver status.
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So thats a 4ft height at the rear,despite being higher than the roof of his cab?
So thats the driver reversing back during the pedestrian phase as a pedestrian dared to think they could cross the road at that moment.
So the driver had a clear field of vision?0 -
It's almost as if you and the cyclists in London have never read the Highway Code. You and they should try, it might stop you looking like an idiot and them from putting themselves in well advertised dangerous positions.
Simple question asked a second time, At what point was the cyclist travelling faster than the wagon?Norman_Castle wrote: »Undertaking and overtaking requires one vehicle to be travelling faster than the other, agreed? At what point was the cyclist travelling faster than the wagon?
Was the cyclist following the vehicle or was it overtaking her?Large vehicles. These may need extra road space to turn or to deal with a hazard that you are not able to see. If you are following a large vehicle, such as a bus or articulated lorry, be aware that the driver may not be able to see you in the mirrors. Be prepared to stop and wait if it needs room or time to turn.
I'm not convinced you're watching the same video so I've put the link here for you. Try watching it with an open mind.
https://twitter.com/JustJevens/status/10220402992778731520 -
Supersonos wrote: »I will drive at 20mph in a 20 zone, but it can feel very intimidating. Most other road users deem it too slow and see you as being in their way, so I regularly get flashed, beeped at and over-taken.
Answer to that is if those drivers don't like the 20mph speed limit they can see if it can be changed to 30mph.0
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