19yr old £1000+ debt due to drugs

Gillianh2

Sneak,
I have been thinking about you. Hoping you can find the drug counselling;)

When you mentioned that they might organise trips out it got me thinking, if you are smoking the weed when you are in the house and perhaps "bored" albeit not bored just in the habit:D Why dont you and GF go for a walk I dont know where you live we live near the sea so its lovely to walk along the beach and the sea air helps you to sleep. But even if its just a walk around for an hour or so it is a way of cutting down as you are not in the house as this is where the prob seems to come from. I am probably way off beam but its just a suggestion. A walk is good for you helps clear your head and doesnt cost anything.
Hope you are ok
Well Done and Please keep us all posted on how you are getting on.:j

JoeHel

Gillianh2 wrote: »

Sneak,
I have been thinking about you. Hoping you can find the drug counselling;)

When you mentioned that they might organise trips out it got me thinking, if you are smoking the weed when you are in the house and perhaps "bored" albeit not bored just in the habit:D Why dont you and GF go for a walk I dont know where you live we live near the sea so its lovely to walk along the beach and the sea air helps you to sleep. But even if its just a walk around for an hour or so it is a way of cutting down as you are not in the house as this is where the prob seems to come from. I am probably way off beam but its just a suggestion. A walk is good for you helps clear your head and doesnt cost anything.
Hope you are ok
Well Done and Please keep us all posted on how you are getting on.:j

Very good suggestion! Nothing works better at getting you sleepy and ready for bed like a good dose of exercise!!!

beanielou

Hope you got that wee part time job & thats why you are not posting.
best of Scottish.

fc123

Having had experience of addiction......going for ENDORPHINS is the best cure.....endorphins are created during exercise..........the high you feel after a vigorous workout...................................step 1 ; you mentioned cycling...start going out for a cycle when the stress feeling builds up...otherwise...for blokes a good session of running followed by weights (for say 2 hours) plus it will really sort out the sleeping problem.

Once you start on a routine...you will get "hooked"...but in a good way.......plus if you eat well (no junk food), you'll realy please the gf.....muscles are a turn on!

sneak

ok then the update:

Friday night, bit mad. went out to my g/fs she said she would buy me ma bud for the night as she has been doin for last few weeks whilst iv been skint. went to ma dealers he had jus nipped out, so i was like ah screw it and mooched off, then bout 2 mins later he rang me up sayin he was back so we went back which she wasnt happy about and a new this was guna cause an argument now lol. so a went in with her and she said right il get you a ten bag tonight and one for tomoz, which id kinda come to an agreement earlier about, so she got it and kept hold of the other one and give me one for the night and off we went. She gets really annoyed with me takin her money even tho she guna get it back she still dont like it. so we got to ma mates i had a smoke and ended up sortin ma mates out like a muppet and then smoked a load maself. a just thought oh its right il get that bud she got because she wud give it me before i went home for the next day, but wud warn me not to smoke it lol. so we got back to hers before i went and she was like right am only givin u this much, and i dont know i got frustrated because even tho i new i wasnt guna smoke it it jus makes me feel better to know iv got it its stupid. so in the end she got really annoyed with me an give it all to me. i got home and bloody ended up smokin virtually all of that bag too!! which i wanted to save til the mornin.

so a get up next day and had a tenner lyin in ma draw from few days earlier that no one knew about so a thort f*k it an went an got some bud and set up ma new bank account which a was supposed to be doin. a went up and got a bud then went to ma mates and she rang me askin where id been coz i hadnt txt her. i just said id been to set up the account and she said her bro seen me near ma dealers house lol! so id been rumbled an had to tell her, she was really annoyed wit me over it all, jus shows the daft stuff a do at weekends its why i hate em wen am skint! right so was a bit mad all afternoon then a went up and was ok wit her, she came to the pawn shop and renewed some of my stuff, i gotta pay interest init till i buy it al back next week which is guna cost me bout £200/£300. haha i saw a big gold weed leaf pendant for ma chain iv already got one but this one i saw was huge, so she asked for it to be put away and put a deposit down for ma crimbo! how nice is that.

anyway did all that and was fine wit me we had a nice walk for a bit round the centre b4 we went out. by the way i dont smoke when am at her house so this is why i try spend alot of time up their or at least away from around my house coz its too easy to smoke round here, even outside ma house and besides it takes about 5 seconds to smoke a bong lol.

so we went out bout 6ish got 2 stellas which got me bladdered and had few bongs. have not bought anymore bud tonight so by rights iv only smoked a ten bag today and a 20 last night, iv got bout 6 bongs to go bed wit now hehe:) try smoke 4 ay.

so, tomoz av got a tenner in ma draw al probs go get a bud in the mornin and save as much as possible for the night time, a wont be going out i think am stayin at home with ma girlfriend, she jus gotta occupy me so a dont smoke! oh yeh i find ma sex drive is really weird sumtimes on bud. Some bud like propa turns me on but more times than not it makes me propa not in the mood:(

then its monday back at work which i will be happy about coz i dont smoke any bud for like 9/10 hours thru the day which makes me feel really good, gives me bit of a break. the nature of all ma past jobs means have been kinda ok to smoke, i mean ok i worked in a wharehouse for ayear at B&Q and fitted windows in huge arcitechural building for two months, everyday of which in boths job i was stoned, guarenteed. i just got it in my head if i got to my interview stoned there not guna think anything different, until i got no weed hahaha!

anyways want to reply to some of you thanks for talkin to me and all your support, will post in a sec coz i dont wana loose all this mysteriously if my pc dies haha jus my luck...

sneak

Skint: Im probably going to get slated for saying this, but couldnt you at least switch to resin rather than weed while your trying to sort out your "addiction"?

Safe man, i used to smoke resin all the time it was my favourite man, its what got me smoking bongs. we used to chip in with my friends like £2.50 each for a £5ers and you get a mix on get 2 bongs each and be wrecked, then you have a mix piece each left for when u get home which is 4 bongs each it was sorted trust me, the only problem is, this was when solid was actually solid and was available. You might think am mad sayin this but let me explain:

when the police busted pure people a while back there was a mega drought, before this there was loads of solid, i was selling bars with my mate for some sketchy guy in little hulton near where i live, it was everywhere and was nice. then the police did a load of busts and the bud stopped comin in from abroad. the solid everyone had went up mega prices then when it ran out all the really really really bad stuff no one cud move came out and everyone was jus forced to buy it. many people quit but i dunno i persisted and slowly the bud came back, but people were homegrowin it. everyone was makin bare money off bud now and the solid just stopped being sold. either everyone quit or waited for green and never switched back. i wud have switched back but when the solid did eventually come back it really wasnt the same at all. it has a awful taste and doesnt fluff up properly. i know what propa solid is like and this just aint it so i dont bother with it its more dangerous than it used to be. i managed to get hold of a half bar of some nice solid aggggges ago, paid £150 up front and it lasted me a good 4 weeks i was impressed. if i could do this now i wud be absolutly buzzin but jus aint guna am afraid. i got converted to the evil bud n thats were the debts started, its so much more expensive and goes so quick. i think if i smoked spliff as much as i smoke bongs id be in twice as much debt. thats why i like bongs kinda coz its an efficiant way to smoke ya stuff

BigsteveX: cheers for the reply mate, i know what ya sayin bout the employers i agree with u entriely, itsjust with every job iv had iv really blagged it mate, gone in stoned on ma first day and every day since.

Gillian: thanks for your support gill your great and know what to say to ppl:) it funny becuase i do have a large canal near my house its the bridgewater canal in manchester, it goes for miles. theres also a big resoviour(dunno how ya spell, ma stoned mind lol) near ma g/fs, i have taken her on walks an fed the ducks ya know in summer, so a dont smoke and not board etc. its just gettin us both out lol coz she a bit fussy and im a soft !!!!!! in this cold weather! we used to go out at weekend to mancheter and that but recently as have had no money it jus seems were doing nothing. i keep tellin her were guna go out when am paid, and i will take her out i wana take her loads of places its jus depressin wen ya got no $$$ lol.

beanielou: nah i didnt go for the part timer job, i did ma CV and everything too. i dont know why i thought id just wait and see how am going on when i get paid. i was really only doin it so i cud try get some money in the nxt few days but it wouldnt have happened, i woulda had to wait for propa payment kinda thing, ma sis is only 15 so they jus gave her cash in hand. so am jus surviving on what i got for next few day and seriously looking after my money this month, then for crimbo i shud have a nice £1000 to myself or there abouts!!!:):):)

FC123: thanks for the advice, i think this is a good idea goin out on ma bike wen am stressed:) i do enjoy goin out on a good downhill ride id jus have to be careful becuase it propably be goin suicidal in the stressed state i get in hahaha. nah i do think this is good an a am guna give it a go next time i need to unwind, instead of reachin for ma bong. afterall iv got about 100miles of canal behind my house....


Right people am off now to continue being an addict an fall asleep lol. thanks for your help guys this is going alot better than i thought, im glad i decided to talk about this crap.

oh i just had an idea too, iv thought of writing down all the things i really would like to buy at some point when have settled ma debts, you know nice things, like certain clothes etc and write em in a big list an bang it on ma wall haha work towards it init


peace guys!

sneak

I dont believe i did that then, the piece of advice that hit me the most i nearly forgot about...my god my memory is screwed!...:



Right, you're working through £10 of grass a day. It was grass, wasn't it?
That's a drain on your funds straight away, as skintbuttrying suggested, try moving to resin. Yes it's generally cheaper but don't congratulate yourself on saving money here.

Of the £70pw you're spending on grass, instead, only buy £50 of resin. It's easier to watch a quarter work down to nothing than it is grass (because the grass is too easily/quickly put in a joint and before you know it your stash is gone).

I totally agree with ya hear mate and many times i buy a £20bag of green and think to myself how much long a half of soilid wud last me for the same amount of cash! its jus not available man:(

Grass is generally more pricey because it's homegrown in the UK, and because given the choice, any smoker will choose grass over resin. You know the diference in smoke you get between the two, I know the diference and so will any other smokers on theese boards.

Anyway! So you've decided to say yeah to moving to resin to try to get yourself off this (or at least cut it down enough to become manageable). Over the weeks as you try to cut down your weekly spend on the resin you'll no doubt WANT to smoke grass again. What I'd suggest here is buying the herbal stuff that you can pick up in bong shops. Use it as a placebo for grass when you're rolling. this is a good idea mate i understand what ya sayin i just dont think i could do it with the way a smoke bongs man, i think it wud probably be worse haha in a bong, id have to cut down to spliffs init

Hopefully with time you'll be able to get acustomed to smoking like this, and be able to remind yourself when you're tempted to go buy a half of resin or a bag of grass, that you're doing all this for YOU. You're looking out for yourself in trying to cut down as much as possible and to get yourself more financially sound. Then after you, there are the loved ones around you. You're doing it for your mum, she no more wants an angry son than you want an upset mother I'm sure. And then there's your girlfriend. No doubt the lass loves you, and you love her. Think about how you'll feel if you loose her because of the ammount you smoke. Yeh man this is deep, really got me thinking this

Try this.
Imagine you've got all your stuff around you in a circle. Your bongs, pipes, rolling tray ect. You've got your bags of weed at your feet or resin on your tray. You've got LOADS of gear kicking around and it's formed a circle around you. Happy times.......you think? Now picture your girlfriend on the other side of this circle. She can't get to you because of this barrier of your smoking gear, and you can't get to her because you're enjoying a smoke and content with all the things that make you chill. Imagine, she leaves you because you can't get to eachother.

When you REALLY picture it in your head, it makes you think, eh?

Now consider this. Weed is the product of a plant. When leaves fall from plants to the ground and they rot, who consumes them then? Worms.

Imagine that all the things around you, your bongs, pipes, rolling tray, weed, resin ect, the things you were busy enjoying whilst you lost your girlfriend and continue to upset your mum have decomposed and in their place are worms. You're sitting there - in a circle of things which have no benefit to you what so ever. You realise that it's horrific and you need to get yourself out of there as theese worms slime all over your feet and you held some in your hands.

:rolleyes: Right ok, I did say I would ramble on a bit. I hope you understand where I was going with the worm thing, and please do try to imagine it. It helped me devellop negative conotations with weed and alcohol (and steroids actually) when I was addicted.

Wow, i gotta give it to you, thats the most safest,sound, brilliant piece of advice anyone has every given me in my life. it made every single bit of sence i feel u conected with me ere on dis. i imagined it as ya said and it really made me feel bad, i mean really unhappy. its a good way to make someone realise, the way u explained it was perfect for me, im an imaginative person an to get somethin like that goin in ya head wen ya wrecked makes you think. you dont mind if i print that little section off do u and keep it somewhere safe, it will really make me think about waht the hell am doing. i really am greatful for you taking you time to write what you wrote its really important to me and will help me so much, when i get things displayed to me in a way i can clearly understand like this it really sticks thank you so much:rolleyes:

I wish you all the very best as you get through this, Sneak. I'm not around as often as I used to be, but if you need a gab/someone to listen feel free to drop me a message on here.
Thanks for this il remember, its good for me to at least know i have people available who know what am about an how to talk about stufff wit me in a way il understand.

Take care hon x

Peace out :A

sneak

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dsljfreeman

Just wanted to drop by and offer my support again, it's one thing thinking about giving up and what you would do but when it comes down to it, it's a huge step and can be very frightening.

I think you're doing really well, just by talking about it shows that you want to give up.

Again, as the others have suggested, cut back on the amount you are smoking, I second what you say about resin - not a lot of people have it anymore, so swapping onto that to save money is no good if it's not available - sorry but I don't know what a bong is but do you have more bongs or joints? Whichever it is aim at cutting back at least 1 a day and only when you feel ok with that then cut back 1 more again, don't try to rush it as it will make you crave it more.

Only you will know what is the best way forward but start straight away, find out what it is that stresses you out and take yourself away from the situation, like I said before about my hubby giving up and always wanting a smoke to relax after work and now that he can't do it, he will take the dog for a walk as soon as he gets home, while you are cutting back you have to learn to occupy your mind with something else to distract yourself from thinking you really need a smoke.

I hope I haven't been rambling on, I'm not trying to undermine you, I've never smoked so can't understand what it's like first hand but I've seen what my hubby goes through first hand and he explains what it's like, I'm trying to give advice from the point of view from my hubby.

Respect is also due to your gf for trying to help you give up, I'm in her position and it's hard, so when you see her you should let her know how much you appreciate her help.

Laura x

SkintButTrying_2

Shame you cant switch to resin sneak, its harder to get round here but with a bit of effort you still can

and great visualisation JCD they really help