Land Registry questions

MandyNau

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MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Hello Land Registry

I wonder if you can help me. I'm selling a flat which is part of Tyneside lease (like a peppercorn lease) but I'm having some issues as the upstairs flat was sold last March but the leases haven't been updated yet (assume it was in the backlog of non urgent work) - believe its called a "transfer of part" that's outstanding.

My solicitor can't issue the lease documents to my buyer until they are amended so he has already expedited this with the LR about 3 weeks ago, but I would have hoped it had been completed by now? My solicitor also said that if there was any issues / queries the LR would return them to the original solicitor of the property upstairs, so he wouldn't be advised if there was a hold up.

I wondered if you could have a look, and just let me know if there has been anything that's caused the delay or if it's in hand and just taking a little longer to complete? My solicitor has quoted title number TY61596 (however my last official documentation had an title number TY561780 )

Any help is much appreciated

Mandy

The application was submitted in April but it’s not been expedited as yet. There’s no request to do so with the case so worth asking the solicitor to check they’ve submitted the request and evidence needed using the right channel 

I’ll flag with colleagues and ask them to consider expediting based on your comments made here but please do double check matters with your solicitor also 

Hi Land Registry 

thanks so much for your reply and your assistance with this last week. My solictor has got back to me this morning saying he has double checked and sent me a screenshot of the application being approved for expedition.  Unsure if this possibly as a result of your action? Could you confirm for me if that is indeed the case that this is now expedited just so I have peace of mind. Can I expect turn around time to be 10 working days as advised on the website?

many thanks again
Mandy

It was expedited following my flagging. Expedition reduces the wait time for it to be processed. 

Well over 60% of this type of application needs more either from the solicitor or wider checks by ourselves. Your solicitor can check progress for you in the same way they’ve shared a screenshot - you should expect it to be considered within the 2 weeks but completion can take longer as explained. 

My advice is to check again with solicitor next Monday to see what stage it’s at or if completed 

Hello again Land Registy

Still waiting on updates, but I wanted to ask if you can clarify what the actual type of application it is that is pending? I assumed it was a simple ownership derails change after the sale of the upstairs flats as we hold each others leaseholds/freeholds, but my solicitor keeps saying it's a request to split the Freehold which doesn't make sense as I surely its already split? Sorry but really losing my hair about this and what's actually going on. Really appreciate all your help!

Mandy

The application affecting Number 370 (I believe that’s the one here) was completed yesterday. So hopefully things are sorted now and you can move on
Check with the conveyancer to confirm and shout if not the case 

Hello again!

So appears part of that application was completed but apparently another part is still outstanding which is also required. What fun! Would you be able check TY581072 for me and confirm of this is expedited/in progress?

many thanks again

Mandy

Land_Registry

d_patz said:

Totally worried about our house sale falling through! I am currently in a moving chain and the property we are buying requires a first registration for a strip of unregistered land before we can complete. I am really stressed out about the prospect of losing our house buyer as his mortgage is due to expire in March (his offer was accepted back in Sept 2021). The vendors solicitor have submitted the application MM166212, are you able to see how long this process will take. Thanks

The application was added to our systems yesterday. It has been expedited which means it will be considered asap 
There are usually three key stages re such applications and each have to be passed in order. 

Stage 1 is the statement of truth provided by the applicant - does it contain the required facts to confirm the claimed ownership 
Stage 2 is a site visit (survey) by Ordnance Survey to check the reality in the ground matches the claimed facts
Stage 3 involves wider checks which can involve contacting adjoining landowners to see if they object/consent for any reason
Stages 2 and/or 3 May not happen but that’s extremely rare
There is also a floating stage, namely if any stage isn’t complete as ‘more’ is needed and we have to go back to the conveyancer/applicant for more information or an explanation
As for timescales it’s very difficult to be definitive. As a rule of very general thumb you are looking at 2 weeks each for stages 1 and 2 plus 3 weeks for stage 3. That’s a very very best scenario of course but the conveyancer can track progress for you. 

The floating stage is impossible to put a timescale on as too many possibilities if it comes into play. 

So for a realistic timescale you are still looking at a 2 month wait as whilst expedition helps it can’t waive the need for the registration requirements and therefore each stage. 

If your mortgage offer expires end of March I’d suggest looking at a possible extension or alternatives just in case but ask your conveyancer to check progress in a few weeks time

Land_Registry

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Hello Land Registry

I wonder if you can help me. I'm selling a flat which is part of Tyneside lease (like a peppercorn lease) but I'm having some issues as the upstairs flat was sold last March but the leases haven't been updated yet (assume it was in the backlog of non urgent work) - believe its called a "transfer of part" that's outstanding.

My solicitor can't issue the lease documents to my buyer until they are amended so he has already expedited this with the LR about 3 weeks ago, but I would have hoped it had been completed by now? My solicitor also said that if there was any issues / queries the LR would return them to the original solicitor of the property upstairs, so he wouldn't be advised if there was a hold up.

I wondered if you could have a look, and just let me know if there has been anything that's caused the delay or if it's in hand and just taking a little longer to complete? My solicitor has quoted title number TY61596 (however my last official documentation had an title number TY561780 )

Any help is much appreciated

Mandy

The application was submitted in April but it’s not been expedited as yet. There’s no request to do so with the case so worth asking the solicitor to check they’ve submitted the request and evidence needed using the right channel 

I’ll flag with colleagues and ask them to consider expediting based on your comments made here but please do double check matters with your solicitor also 

Hi Land Registry 

thanks so much for your reply and your assistance with this last week. My solictor has got back to me this morning saying he has double checked and sent me a screenshot of the application being approved for expedition.  Unsure if this possibly as a result of your action? Could you confirm for me if that is indeed the case that this is now expedited just so I have peace of mind. Can I expect turn around time to be 10 working days as advised on the website?

many thanks again
Mandy

It was expedited following my flagging. Expedition reduces the wait time for it to be processed. 

Well over 60% of this type of application needs more either from the solicitor or wider checks by ourselves. Your solicitor can check progress for you in the same way they’ve shared a screenshot - you should expect it to be considered within the 2 weeks but completion can take longer as explained. 

My advice is to check again with solicitor next Monday to see what stage it’s at or if completed 

Hello again Land Registy

Still waiting on updates, but I wanted to ask if you can clarify what the actual type of application it is that is pending? I assumed it was a simple ownership derails change after the sale of the upstairs flats as we hold each others leaseholds/freeholds, but my solicitor keeps saying it's a request to split the Freehold which doesn't make sense as I surely its already split? Sorry but really losing my hair about this and what's actually going on. Really appreciate all your help!

Mandy

The application affecting Number 370 (I believe that’s the one here) was completed yesterday. So hopefully things are sorted now and you can move on
Check with the conveyancer to confirm and shout if not the case 

Hello again!

So appears part of that application was completed but apparently another part is still outstanding which is also required. What fun! Would you be able check TY581072 for me and confirm of this is expedited/in progress?

many thanks again

Mandy

That title affects 368 and we contacted conveyancer on 15th Feb for more 

happyandcontented

We are trying to buy the freehold of our property as a part of our ongoing sale.

The Freeholder cannot yet find the relevant title documents. but has been receiving the ground rent via their agent for 8 years since inheriting from her late father.

How long is the process to reconstitute the title deed likely to take if they cannot be found?
What would constitute proof of entitlement to sell the freehold?

Is there any way to expedite this issue?

Land_Registry

happyandcontented said:

We are trying to buy the freehold of our property as a part of our ongoing sale.

The Freeholder cannot yet find the relevant title documents. but has been receiving the ground rent via their agent for 8 years since inheriting from her late father.

How long is the process to reconstitute the title deed likely to take if they cannot be found?
What would constitute proof of entitlement to sell the freehold?

Is there any way to expedite this issue?

I’m assuming it’s unregistered then so when she inherited they didn’t transfer it to her and trigger first registration 
Our PG 2 explains what’s needed to create a title when deeds have been lost 
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/first-registration-of-title-where-deeds-have-been-lost-or-destroyed

Once submitted they need to then request expedition to get it processed quickly 

happyandcontented

Thanks, we don't actually know if it has ever been registered. Her father inherited it from his father as I understand it.

How can we find out?

Slithery

If it's been registered then it will appear on a LR map search...
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/eservices/FindAProperty/view/MapEnquiryInit.do

error_eros

Hello @Land_Registry , we completed a purchase of a property at the end of last September, title no. EGL271855. I haven't heard anything from HMLR since and it's been 4 months. So I wonder if everything is alright with our application to update the registry? Can you please check the status of the application for me? We also made an enquiry with the contact form on the HMLR website.

Thanks very much
Ben

Slithery

error_eros said:

Hello @Land_Registry , we completed a purchase of a property at the end of last September, title no. EGL271855. I haven't heard anything from HMLR since and it's been 4 months. So I wonder if everything is alright with our application to update the registry? Can you please check the status of the application for me? We also made an enquiry with the contact form on the HMLR website.

Thanks very much
Ben

Current backlog is 12+ months. You have nothing to worry about.

error_eros

Slithery said:

error_eros said:

Hello @Land_Registry , we completed a purchase of a property at the end of last September, title no. EGL271855. I haven't heard anything from HMLR since and it's been 4 months. So I wonder if everything is alright with our application to update the registry? Can you please check the status of the application for me? We also made an enquiry with the contact form on the HMLR website.

Thanks very much
Ben

Current backlog is 12+ months. You have nothing to worry about.

Thanks very much, that's a relief. Guess I'll just have to wait. Ben