Land Registry questions

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NikNak90 said:

Could I ask how long registrations are taking at the moment? We purchased our new buld house in October 2020 and after checking the deeds online a couple of months ago it has stiill not been updated to include our names and is still showing our housing association as the owners (we are shared ownership). Thank you

Plot sales (new builds) can wait that long at present. It can range from 6 months to a year or more. Your conveyancer can check for you re progress but for most it’s a case of waiting for them to tell you once done 

NDH2022

Hi @Land_Registry

I wonder if you can help point me in the right direction, about 12 years ago we bought my mum and dads house off of them, but paid for it over 9 years so had them listed as Lender at Land Registry via the solicitors dealing wiht the sale from them to us.  We show as the Registered Owners but my mum and dad show as Lenders.  Once we'd finished paying them we didn't realise we needed to get them removed from Land Registry so they are still showing on there.

Unfortunately they both passed away last year and so I can't get them to fill in a DS1 to get the charge removed.  We did not need Probate as their estate was so small and they owned no property, so can you advise how I can get the charge removed at the Land Registry, everything I see online talks about removing Proprieters once they are deceased, but I can't find anything to remove a charge once they are deceased.  I am their next of kin and the Executor of the will.

Any help you can give to point me in the right direction to ge the charge removed is much appreciated

Thanks
Nyree

MandyNau

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Hello Land Registry

I wonder if you can help me. I'm selling a flat which is part of Tyneside lease (like a peppercorn lease) but I'm having some issues as the upstairs flat was sold last March but the leases haven't been updated yet (assume it was in the backlog of non urgent work) - believe its called a "transfer of part" that's outstanding.

My solicitor can't issue the lease documents to my buyer until they are amended so he has already expedited this with the LR about 3 weeks ago, but I would have hoped it had been completed by now? My solicitor also said that if there was any issues / queries the LR would return them to the original solicitor of the property upstairs, so he wouldn't be advised if there was a hold up.

I wondered if you could have a look, and just let me know if there has been anything that's caused the delay or if it's in hand and just taking a little longer to complete? My solicitor has quoted title number TY61596 (however my last official documentation had an title number TY561780 )

Any help is much appreciated

Mandy

The application was submitted in April but it’s not been expedited as yet. There’s no request to do so with the case so worth asking the solicitor to check they’ve submitted the request and evidence needed using the right channel 

I’ll flag with colleagues and ask them to consider expediting based on your comments made here but please do double check matters with your solicitor also 

Hi Land Registry 

thanks so much for your reply and your assistance with this last week. My solictor has got back to me this morning saying he has double checked and sent me a screenshot of the application being approved for expedition.  Unsure if this possibly as a result of your action? Could you confirm for me if that is indeed the case that this is now expedited just so I have peace of mind. Can I expect turn around time to be 10 working days as advised on the website?

many thanks again
Mandy

It was expedited following my flagging. Expedition reduces the wait time for it to be processed. 

Well over 60% of this type of application needs more either from the solicitor or wider checks by ourselves. Your solicitor can check progress for you in the same way they’ve shared a screenshot - you should expect it to be considered within the 2 weeks but completion can take longer as explained. 

My advice is to check again with solicitor next Monday to see what stage it’s at or if completed 

Hello again Land Registy

Still waiting on updates, but I wanted to ask if you can clarify what the actual type of application it is that is pending? I assumed it was a simple ownership derails change after the sale of the upstairs flats as we hold each others leaseholds/freeholds, but my solicitor keeps saying it's a request to split the Freehold which doesn't make sense as I surely its already split? Sorry but really losing my hair about this and what's actually going on. Really appreciate all your help!

Mandy

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NDH2022 said:

Hi @Land_Registry

I wonder if you can help point me in the right direction, about 12 years ago we bought my mum and dads house off of them, but paid for it over 9 years so had them listed as Lender at Land Registry via the solicitors dealing wiht the sale from them to us.  We show as the Registered Owners but my mum and dad show as Lenders.  Once we'd finished paying them we didn't realise we needed to get them removed from Land Registry so they are still showing on there.

Unfortunately they both passed away last year and so I can't get them to fill in a DS1 to get the charge removed.  We did not need Probate as their estate was so small and they owned no property, so can you advise how I can get the charge removed at the Land Registry, everything I see online talks about removing Proprieters once they are deceased, but I can't find anything to remove a charge once they are deceased.  I am their next of kin and the Executor of the will.

Any help you can give to point me in the right direction to ge the charge removed is much appreciated

Thanks
Nyree

I’m sorry to read of your loss but I’m afraid that does mean you need probate now as the ‘debt’/charge formed part of the estate. 

So you’ll need the death certificate for the first deceased parent and probate for the second. You can then complete form DS and apply to have the charge removed using form DS2 or AP1 plus the other docs and form DS1. 

NDH2022

Land_Registry said:

NDH2022 said:

Hi @Land_Registry

I wonder if you can help point me in the right direction, about 12 years ago we bought my mum and dads house off of them, but paid for it over 9 years so had them listed as Lender at Land Registry via the solicitors dealing wiht the sale from them to us.  We show as the Registered Owners but my mum and dad show as Lenders.  Once we'd finished paying them we didn't realise we needed to get them removed from Land Registry so they are still showing on there.

Unfortunately they both passed away last year and so I can't get them to fill in a DS1 to get the charge removed.  We did not need Probate as their estate was so small and they owned no property, so can you advise how I can get the charge removed at the Land Registry, everything I see online talks about removing Proprieters once they are deceased, but I can't find anything to remove a charge once they are deceased.  I am their next of kin and the Executor of the will.

Any help you can give to point me in the right direction to ge the charge removed is much appreciated

Thanks
Nyree

I’m sorry to read of your loss but I’m afraid that does mean you need probate now as the ‘debt’/charge formed part of the estate. 

So you’ll need the death certificate for the first deceased parent and probate for the second. You can then complete form DS and apply to have the charge removed using form DS2 or AP1 plus the other docs and form DS1. 

Thanks @Land_Registry

A solicitor I spoke to talked about a 'Statement of Truth' but they want to charge about £400 for that, by the sounds of it though that wouldn't be enough as I'd still need Probate from what you say.  I'll get that sorted and then complete and send the forms you mention

Thanks a lot
Nyree

Land_Registry

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Land_Registry said:

MandyNau said:

Hello Land Registry

I wonder if you can help me. I'm selling a flat which is part of Tyneside lease (like a peppercorn lease) but I'm having some issues as the upstairs flat was sold last March but the leases haven't been updated yet (assume it was in the backlog of non urgent work) - believe its called a "transfer of part" that's outstanding.

My solicitor can't issue the lease documents to my buyer until they are amended so he has already expedited this with the LR about 3 weeks ago, but I would have hoped it had been completed by now? My solicitor also said that if there was any issues / queries the LR would return them to the original solicitor of the property upstairs, so he wouldn't be advised if there was a hold up.

I wondered if you could have a look, and just let me know if there has been anything that's caused the delay or if it's in hand and just taking a little longer to complete? My solicitor has quoted title number TY61596 (however my last official documentation had an title number TY561780 )

Any help is much appreciated

Mandy

The application was submitted in April but it’s not been expedited as yet. There’s no request to do so with the case so worth asking the solicitor to check they’ve submitted the request and evidence needed using the right channel 

I’ll flag with colleagues and ask them to consider expediting based on your comments made here but please do double check matters with your solicitor also 

Hi Land Registry 

thanks so much for your reply and your assistance with this last week. My solictor has got back to me this morning saying he has double checked and sent me a screenshot of the application being approved for expedition.  Unsure if this possibly as a result of your action? Could you confirm for me if that is indeed the case that this is now expedited just so I have peace of mind. Can I expect turn around time to be 10 working days as advised on the website?

many thanks again
Mandy

It was expedited following my flagging. Expedition reduces the wait time for it to be processed. 

Well over 60% of this type of application needs more either from the solicitor or wider checks by ourselves. Your solicitor can check progress for you in the same way they’ve shared a screenshot - you should expect it to be considered within the 2 weeks but completion can take longer as explained. 

My advice is to check again with solicitor next Monday to see what stage it’s at or if completed 

Hello again Land Registy

Still waiting on updates, but I wanted to ask if you can clarify what the actual type of application it is that is pending? I assumed it was a simple ownership derails change after the sale of the upstairs flats as we hold each others leaseholds/freeholds, but my solicitor keeps saying it's a request to split the Freehold which doesn't make sense as I surely its already split? Sorry but really losing my hair about this and what's actually going on. Really appreciate all your help!

Mandy

The application affecting Number 370 (I believe that’s the one here) was completed yesterday. So hopefully things are sorted now and you can move on
Check with the conveyancer to confirm and shout if not the case 

Land_Registry

NDH2022 said:

Land_Registry said:

NDH2022 said:

Hi @Land_Registry

I wonder if you can help point me in the right direction, about 12 years ago we bought my mum and dads house off of them, but paid for it over 9 years so had them listed as Lender at Land Registry via the solicitors dealing wiht the sale from them to us.  We show as the Registered Owners but my mum and dad show as Lenders.  Once we'd finished paying them we didn't realise we needed to get them removed from Land Registry so they are still showing on there.

Unfortunately they both passed away last year and so I can't get them to fill in a DS1 to get the charge removed.  We did not need Probate as their estate was so small and they owned no property, so can you advise how I can get the charge removed at the Land Registry, everything I see online talks about removing Proprieters once they are deceased, but I can't find anything to remove a charge once they are deceased.  I am their next of kin and the Executor of the will.

Any help you can give to point me in the right direction to ge the charge removed is much appreciated

Thanks
Nyree

I’m sorry to read of your loss but I’m afraid that does mean you need probate now as the ‘debt’/charge formed part of the estate. 

So you’ll need the death certificate for the first deceased parent and probate for the second. You can then complete form DS and apply to have the charge removed using form DS2 or AP1 plus the other docs and form DS1. 

Thanks @Land_Registry

A solicitor I spoke to talked about a 'Statement of Truth' but they want to charge about £400 for that, by the sounds of it though that wouldn't be enough as I'd still need Probate from what you say.  I'll get that sorted and then complete and send the forms you mention

Thanks a lot
Nyree

Correct - a ST doesn’t help here as the charge is part of the legal estate. No option but to apply for probate and rely on that to discharge the charge now 

HH2022

Could you please let us know the status of WT (updating title to show the correct house number for the property) ? 

Land_Registry

HH2022 said:

Could you please let us know the status of WT17344 (updating title to show the correct house number for the property) ? 

It was lodged today. Current wait times are lengthy so IF there’s an urgency such as an onward sale or remortgage then the conveyancer needs to request expedition next 

d_patz

Totally worried about our house sale falling through! I am currently in a moving chain and the property we are buying requires a first registration for a strip of unregistered land before we can complete. I am really stressed out about the prospect of losing our house buyer as his mortgage is due to expire in March (his offer was accepted back in Sept 2021). The vendors solicitor have submitted the application MM166212, are you able to see how long this process will take. Thanks